171  
FXUS63 KLOT 200950  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
350 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- COLDEST AIR MASS OF THE AUTUMN THUS FAR ARRIVES TODAY/TONIGHT.  
 
- SNOW SHOWERS DEVELOP LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT AND  
MAY BRING THE SEASON'S FIRST MEASURABLE ACCUMULATION IN SOME  
LOCATIONS.  
 
- MORE SUBSTANTIAL WET SNOW EXPECTED THURSDAY, WITH SLUSHY  
ACCUMULATION LIKELY EVEN ON ROADS ESPECIALLY DURING THE  
MORNING.  
 
- LIMITED RISK FOR MINOR LAKESHORE FLOODING AND EROSION ALONG  
PRIMARILY THE PORTER COUNTY SHORELINE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO  
FRIDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 350 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
THROUGH THURSDAY:  
 
THE COMPLEX EVOLUTION OF A DEEP UPPER TROUGH/LOW OVER THE  
REGION WILL BRING ABOUT AN ACTIVE PERIOD OF WEATHER LOCALLY OVER  
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, INCLUDING OUR FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW  
OF THE SEASON ALONG WITH BLUSTERY/WINDY AND COLDER CONDITIONS.  
 
INITIALLY THIS MORNING, A NORTH-SOUTH BAND OF RAIN WAS  
DEVELOPING INTO WESTERN IL IN ASSOCIATION WITH STRONG MID-LEVEL  
FRONTOGENESIS BENEATH THE DIVERGENT/DIFFLUENT LEFT EXIT REGION  
OF A STRONG UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE DEEP  
UPPER TROUGH OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST. THIS AREA OF RAIN IS  
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP EAST ACROSS THE WFO LOT FORECAST  
AREA EARLY THIS MORNING AS THE JET STREAK/MID-LEVEL SHORT WAVE  
WRAP CYCLONICALLY ACROSS THE AREA, THOUGH IT SHOULD LARGELY MOVE  
EAST OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING AS THE MID-LEVEL FRONT PASSES. A  
PERIOD OF CLEARING IS EXPECTED FROM LATER MORNING THROUGH  
MIDDAY IN THE WAKE OF THIS WAVE, THOUGH BLUSTERY WEST WINDS WILL  
BE USHERING COLDER AIR INTO THE REGION INTO THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW (CURRENTLY OVER NORTHWEST MN) IS  
PROGGED TO DEVELOP SOUTHEASTWARD TOWARD THE WESTERN LAKES THIS  
AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT, WITH ITS MID-LEVEL COLD POOL (700 HPA  
TEMPS AROUND -15C) AND PERSISTENT LOW-LEVEL COLD ADVECTION  
EXPECTED TO RESULT IN CONVECTIVE SHOWER DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CWA  
FROM THE NORTHWEST THIS AFTERNOON. WHILE THESE MAY BEGIN  
BRIEFLY AS RAIN, THE COOLING OF THE COLUMN SHOULD ALLOW THESE TO  
BECOME MIXED WITH AND CHANGE TO SNOW SHOWERS FAIRLY QUICKLY BY  
THIS EVENING. WHILE INTERMITTENT AT ANY ONE LOCATION, COVERAGE  
IS EXPECTED TO BE SUFFICIENT TO PRODUCE SOME MINOR ACCUMULATIONS  
(A FEW TENTHS OF AN INCH) IN MANY AREAS OVERNIGHT AS SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE LOW-MID 30S. FORECAST SOUNDINGS  
ACTUALLY DEPICT A FAIRLY DEEP (10-12 KFT) MOISTURE LAYER WITHIN  
THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE WHICH ALSO LENDS SUPPORT FOR SOME  
ACCUMS.  
 
THE CENTER OF THE UPPER LOW IS PROGGED TO MOVE EAST ACROSS  
MI/IN/OH BY THURSDAY MORNING. HOWEVER, THE STRONG MID-LEVEL VORT  
CURRENTLY MOVING INTO OUR AREA EARLY THIS MORNING IS PROGGED TO  
WRAP CYCLONICALLY AROUND THE UPPER LOW AND DROP SOUTHWARD WITH  
A A SUB- 1000 HPA SURFACE LOW ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN AND VICINITY  
THURSDAY. INCREASING FORCING IS EXPECTED TO RESULT WITH  
INCREASING PRECIPITATION COVERAGE DEVELOPING THURSDAY MORNING,  
AND IS EXPECTED TO INITIALLY BE MAINLY SNOW GIVEN THE SUB-  
FREEZING THERMODYNAMIC PROFILES. THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL COLD POOL  
IS FORECAST TO SHIFT SOUTHEAST OF THE AREA DURING THE  
MIDDAY/AFTERNOON HOURS, WHICH ALONG WITH LOW-LEVEL WINDS TURNING  
NORTH-NORTHEASTERLY OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN WILL LIKELY ALLOW  
PRECIPITATION TO TRANSITION BACK TO A RAIN/SNOW MIX INTO THE  
AFTERNOON. SNOW ACCUMULATION APPEARS LIKELY (PERHAPS A COUPLE OF  
INCHES) DURING THE MORNING HOWEVER, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR  
SLUSHY ACCUMS ON ROADS WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE LOW-30S.  
 
IN ADDITION TO OUR WINTRY PRECIPITATION, STRONG NORTH-NORTHWEST  
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT THE AREA THURSDAY AS THE DEEP,  
COMPACT SURFACE LOW TRACKS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN.  
SUSTAINED WINDS OF 25+ MPH APPEAR POSSIBLE WITH GUSTS UP TO 45  
MPH. THERE DOES REMAIN SOME MODEL SPREAD IN THE EXACT  
PATH/INTENSITY OF THE LOW, AND THIS MAY AFFECT JUST WHERE THE  
STRONGEST WINDS (AND THEIR MAGNITUDE) OCCUR. IT'S POSSIBLE WE'LL  
NEED TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL FOR A WIND ADVISORY HEADLINE FOR  
PART OF THE CWA WITH LATER FORECASTS.  
 
RATZER  
 
THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY:  
 
THURSDAY'S SYSTEM WILL BE QUICKLY DEPARTING TO THE SOUTHEAST  
THURSDAY EVENING AS THERMAL PROFILES CONTINUE TO WARM. PRECIP  
TYPE LOOKS TO BE PRIMARILY RAIN ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA AS  
COVERAGE OF PRECIP DIMINISHES WITH TIME. HOWEVER, SOME LAKE  
ENHANCEMENT AND A SLIGHTLY EAST OF NORTH WIND SHIFT MAY BRING A  
MORE FOCUSED RAIN BAND INTO CHICAGO AND THE SOUTH SUBURBS BEFORE  
SHIFTING EASTWARD INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA BY THE OVERNIGHT  
HOURS. ALSO OF NOTE WILL BE STRONG NORTH WINDS THURSDAY INTO  
THURSDAY EVENING THAT MAY PRODUCE WAVES HIGH ENOUGH TO GENERATE  
MINOR LAKESHORE EROSION AND FLOODING INTO PRIMARILY PORTER  
COUNTY THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY.  
 
THOUGH WIDESPREAD PRECIP IS EXPECTED TO END BY FRIDAY MORNING,  
PERSISTENT STRATUS UNDER A WEAK SUBSIDENCE INVERSION MAY BE DEEP  
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT RESIDUAL PATCHES OF DRIZZLE OR SPRINKLES  
THROUGH THE DAY. OTHERWISE, BLUSTERY NORTHWEST WINDS WILL  
CONTINUE AS TEMPS RISE INTO THE LOW TO MID 40S. SCATTERED LAKE  
EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS WILL ALSO CONTINUE IN THE NORTHWEST WIND  
LAKE EFFECT BELTS THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT, THOUGH INTENSITY WILL BE  
WANING WITH TIME AS THE INVERSION LOWERS.  
 
RIDGING SHOULD THEN BRING QUIET CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY BEFORE A  
LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS INTERACTS WITH A  
POCKET OF PACIFIC MOISTURE TO PRODUCE AN AREA OF RAIN SOMEWHERE  
OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY, WITH  
ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE FAVORING WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN. GENERAL  
PACIFIC FLOW WITH SMALL CHANCES OF RAIN IS THEN EXPECTED TUESDAY  
INTO WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE CONUS-SCALE PATTERN AMPLIFIES WITH  
DEEPER TROUGHING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES INTO THE NORTHEAST  
AROUND THANKSGIVING.  
 
KLUBER  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1101 PM CST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
FORECAST CONCERNS FOR THE TERMINALS...  
 
- PERIOD OF NEAR MVFR CEILINGS TONIGHT, MAINLY NEAR THE IL-WI  
LINE  
 
- BRIEF PERIOD OF RAIN SHOWERS AROUND DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY MORNING  
 
- BREEZY WESTERLY WINDS WEDNESDAY WITH GUSTS IN THE 20-30 KT  
RANGE  
 
- SECOND ROUND OF RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON  
TRANSITIONING TO SNOW SHOWERS WEDNESDAY EVENING/NIGHT  
 
A BROAD AREA OF 2500-3500 FT CEILINGS CONTINUE TO PIVOT ACROSS  
NORTHERN IL THIS EVENING AHEAD OF AN ORGANIZING UPPER LOW IN THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS. WHILE PERIODS OF MVFR CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN  
OBSERVED AT THE TERMINALS, THEIR LONGEVITY HAS BEEN RELATIVELY  
SHORT SO WILL CONTINUE TO HANDLE THIS POTENTIAL WITH A SCT025  
MENTION THROUGH TONIGHT. AS WE HEAD INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING, THE  
SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE ALONG THE MO-KS LINE WILL BE LIFTING OVER  
THE AREA WITH ITS ASSOCIATED ELEVATED FRONT. ALONG THE FRONT A  
BAND OF SHOWERS IS ALREADY DEVELOPING IN IA AND SHOULD MOVE  
THROUGH THE TERMINALS BETWEEN 10Z AND 15Z. GIVEN THAT THESE  
SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO BE QUICK MOVING HAVE DECIDED TO MAINTAIN  
THE TEMPO GROUPS SO EXPECT ANY SITE TO HAVE SHOWERS FOR ABOUT AN  
HOUR OR TWO AT MOST.  
 
ASIDE FROM THESE SHOWERS, WINDS WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE WEDNESDAY  
MORNING AS THE UPPER LOW DRIFTS INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION.  
INITIALLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GUST IN THE 20-25 KT RANGE, BUT  
WILL INCREASE BY THE AFTERNOON WITH GUSTS OF 25-30 KTS.  
REGARDLESS, WIND DIRECTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO PREVAIL OUT OF THE  
WEST. WHILE THE STRONGEST GUSTS ARE FORECAST TO DIMINISH DURING  
THE EVENING ON WEDNESDAY, A WELL MIXED ATMOSPHERE OVERNIGHT  
SHOULD SUPPORT AT LEAST SOME OCCASIONAL 17-20 KT GUSTS THROUGH  
THE END OF THE TAF PERIOD.  
 
FINALLY, THE APPROACHING UPPER LOW WILL ALSO GENERATE A SECOND  
AREA OF SHOWERS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT. AT  
FIRST THESE SHOWERS WILL START OFF AS RAIN OR EVEN A RAIN/SNOW  
MIX AS THE SNOW GROWTH REGION QUICKLY SATURATES, BUT THE SHOWERS  
WILL TRANSITION OVER TO ALL SNOW BETWEEN 02Z AND 04Z WEDNESDAY.  
HOWEVER, SURFACE TEMPERATURES DURING THE TRANSITION ARE FORECAST  
TO BE AT OR JUST ABOVE FREEZING WHICH SHOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF  
ACCUMULATION TO MAINLY GRASSY AND ELEVATED SURFACES. THAT SAID,  
MOST GUIDANCE IS IN DECENT AGREEMENT THAT SNOW AMOUNTS SHOULD  
GENERALLY BE UNDER A QUARTER INCH BUT THERE REMAINS THE  
POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOCALIZED POCKETS OF HIGHER TOTALS IN EXCESS  
OF HALF AN INCH WITH THE MOST ROBUST SHOWERS. FURTHERMORE, THE  
SNOW SHOWERS WILL ALSO COME WITH A THREAT OF REDUCED  
VISIBILITIES WHICH COULD DIP INTO THE IFR CATEGORY. DUE TO  
UNCERTAINTY AS TO WHERE THE STRONGEST SHOWERS WILL TRACK, HAVE  
DECIDED TO MAINTAIN A VAGUE 5SM -SHSN IN THE TAFS FOR NOW BUT  
MAY NEED TO CONSIDER LOWER VISIBILITIES WITH FUTURE UPDATES.  
NEVERTHELESS, CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME MVFR WITH THE SNOW  
SHOWERS AND PREVAIL AS SUCH THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD.  
 
YACK  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ISSUED AT 958 PM CST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
- GALE WATCH ISSUED FOR THE ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA  
NEARSHORE WATERS THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING.  
 
STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER LAKE MICHIGAN ON  
THURSDAY IN RESPONSE TO A DEEPENING SURFACE LOW RETROGRADING  
OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION. WEST-NORTHWEST GUSTS IN  
EXCESS OF 40 KT WILL BE POSSIBLE THURSDAY MORNING BEFORE  
STEADILY VEERING NORTH-NORTHWEST OR NORTH BY EARLY EVENING.  
WINDS WILL THEN DIMINISH THROUGH THE NIGHT.  
 
A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH THE  
START OF THE GALE WATCH PERIOD WHEN WINDS WILL BE GUSTING TO  
AROUND 25 KT AND WAVES WILL BE BUILDING ALONG THE NORTHWEST  
INDIANA SHORE.  
 
PETR  
 

 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 7 AM CST THURSDAY FOR  
THE IL NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
GALE WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING FOR  
THE IL NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 9 AM THIS MORNING TO 10 AM CST  
THURSDAY FOR THE IN NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
GALE WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING FOR  
THE IN NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 

 
 

 
 
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