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FXUS63 KLOT 210040  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
640 PM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SNOW SHOWERS THROUGH TONIGHT AND MAY BRING THE SEASON'S  
FIRST MEASURABLE ACCUMULATION IN SOME LOCATIONS.  
 
- A 2-3 HOUR PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY WIND-WHIPPED WET SNOW  
EXPECTED THURSDAY, WITH SLUSHY ACCUMULATIONS LIKELY EVEN ON  
ROADS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON.  
 
- STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS GUSTING UP TO 40-45 MPH MAY PRESENT A  
LIMITED RISK FOR MINOR LAKESHORE FLOODING AND EROSION ALONG  
THE PORTER COUNTY SHORELINE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 234 PM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT:  
 
A FASCINATING (AND HIGHLY UNUSUAL) SYNOPTIC EVOLUTION WILL  
RESULT IN AN ACTIVE PERIOD OF WINTRY WEATHER THROUGH THURSDAY  
NIGHT, INCLUDING TEMPS AROUND FREEZING, THE FIRST MEASURABLE  
SNOW OF THE SEASON FOR MANY AREAS, AND STRONG WEST-NORTHWEST  
WINDS. COMING RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF YET ANOTHER MILD STRETCH IN  
OUR EXCEPTIONALLY WARM FALL TO DATE, THIS SHORT STRETCH OF  
WINTRY CONDITIONS WILL FEEL MORE HARSH THAN IT TYPICALLY WOULD  
BY THIS LATE INTO NOVEMBER.  
 
A SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED ALONG WITH MORE  
AGGRESSIVE GRAPHICAL MESSAGING OF THE LIKELY HEAVY AT TIMES  
WIND-WHIPPED SNOW FOR THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
METEOROLOGICAL SYNOPSIS:  
 
THE CORE OF THE EXTREMELY WOUND UP AND WELL DEFINED UPPER LOW  
(ON GOES-EAST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY) CENTERED OVER NORTHERN  
MINNESOTA AS OF THIS AFTERNOON WILL TRANSLATE SOUTHEASTWARD TO  
THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THROUGH TONIGHT. ITS MID-LEVEL COLD POOL  
WILL FEATURE 700 MB TEMPS DOWN AS LOW AS -15C AMIDST PERSISTENT,  
ROBUST LOW-LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION (CAA), BRINGING 850 MB  
TEMPS DOWN TO AROUND -10C BY PRE-DAWN THURSDAY. THE CENTER OF  
THE UPPER LOW WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS MI/IN/OH THURSDAY MORNING.  
MEANWHILE, A STRONG MID-LEVEL VORT THAT BROUGHT THIS MORNING'S  
BRIEF PERIOD OF RAIN WILL WRAP CYCLONICALLY ALL THE WAY BACK  
AROUND THE UPPER LOW WITH AN ACCOMPANYING LOW-MID 990S MB  
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER DROPPING SOUTHWARD ALONG THE LENGTH  
OF LAKE MICHIGAN. THIS EVOLUTION WILL ACTUALLY BRING MODEST WARM  
AIR ADVECTION FROM THE NORTH (!) THURSDAY AFTERNOON, PERTINENT  
TO THE PRECIPITATION TYPE FORECAST DISCUSSED IN THE RUNDOWN  
BELOW.  
 
SNOW/GRAUPEL SHOWERS THROUGH TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY:  
 
CONVECTIVE SHOWER DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED A BIT EARLIER THAN  
EXPECTED WITH THE APPROACH OF THE MID-LEVEL COLD POOL. AS IS  
COMMON WITH INITIALLY WELL ABOVE FREEZING SURFACE TEMPS, BUT  
DECREASING WET-BULB TEMPS, LOWERING WET-BULB ZERO HEIGHTS, AND  
STEEP LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES, THE MORE ROBUST CORES WILL LIKELY  
PRODUCE GRAUPEL (SOFT HAIL/SNOW PELLETS) THROUGH SUNSET. THE  
CONTINUED COOLING OF THE COLUMN WILL THEN FORCE THE CONVECTIVE  
SHOWERS OVER TO PRIMARILY SNOW (AND GRAUPEL AT TIMES) FAIRLY  
QUICKLY. WHILE TRANSIENT HEAVIER RATES WILL BE INTERMITTENT AT  
ANY ONE LOCATION, SNOW SHOWER COVERAGE WILL PEAK LATE THIS  
EVENING THROUGH THE PRE-DAWN HOURS WITH ANOTHER VORT MAX. AIDED  
BY A FAIRLY DEEP DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE (DGZ) NOTED ON FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS, THIS HIGHER COVERAGE SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO PRODUCE  
SOME MINOR ACCUMULATIONS (UP TO A FEW TENTHS OF AN INCH) AS  
TEMPS FALL INTO THE 29-33F RANGE.  
 
THURSDAY'S BURST OF MODERATE TO HEAVY WIND-WHIPPED WET SNOW:  
 
AFTER RESULTING IN HEAVIER PRECIP RATES OVER CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN WISCONSIN, IMPRESSIVE LARGE SCALE FORCING AND TRANSIENT  
STRONG LOW-LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS WITH THE NEXT VORT MAX WILL PIVOT  
STEADILY SOUTHWARD ACROSS ESPECIALLY THE EASTERN 2/3RDS OF OUR  
CWA ON THURSDAY. THERMAL PROFILES FAVOR A PRECIP TYPE OF ALL  
SNOW DURING THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION RATES.  
 
STRONG ASCENT THROUGH DEPTH OF THE TROPOSPHERE, WITH ASCENT  
MAXIMIZED NEAR THE DGZ, AND MAX CLOUD LAYER TEMPS > -5C WOULD  
FAVOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF WET AGGREGATE SNOWFLAKES. GIVEN THIS  
AND THE PRESENCE OF STEEP MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL LAPSE RATES, WE  
WILL LIKELY SEE MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW AT TIMES WITH SHARPLY  
REDUCED VISIBILITY (BRIEFLY DOWN AS LOW AS 1/2 MILE OR SO).  
ADDING TO THE VISIBILITY ISSUES WILL BE THE WEST-NORTHWEST WINDS  
GUSTING UP TO 35-45 MPH, STRONGEST WITH WESTWARD EXTENT. BASED  
ON HREF PROBABILITIES, RATES COULD APPROACH OR EVEN EXCEED  
1"/HOUR IN THE ~2-3 HOUR WINDOW OF PEAK RATES FROM ABOUT 8AM FAR  
NORTH TO ~2-3PM CST FAR SOUTH.  
 
DESPITE THE ANTECEDENT VERY MILD GROUND CONDITIONS, IT'S  
IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT LATE NOVEMBER SUN ANGLES ARE THE  
EQUIVALENT OF LATE JANUARY. THEREFORE, GIVEN THE INCREASINGLY  
HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS ABOVE, WE REMAIN CONCERNED FOR  
ACCUMULATIONS ON AT LEAST SOME ROADS GIVEN THE EXPECTED HEAVY  
SNOWFALL RATES. ELEVATED AND/OR LESS HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS WILL  
LIKELY BE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL. MILDER  
ROAD PAVEMENT TEMP STARTING POINTS COULD LARGELY MITIGATE  
IMPACTS ON THE MORE HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS IN AND NEAR THE CITY  
OF CHICAGO, THOUGH IT REMAINS POSSIBLE THAT THE HEAVY SNOWFALL  
RATES MAY ULTIMATELY END UP OVERWHELMING THE MILDER PAVEMENT  
TEMPERATURES AND CAUSE SOME SLICK SPOTS TO DEVELOP ON THESE  
MORE TRAVELED THOROUGHFARES ANYWAYS. TOTAL SLUSHY ACCUMULATIONS  
SHOULD LARGELY END UP IN THE 1-3" RANGE, WITH 2-3" AMOUNTS ON A  
MORE LOCALIZED BASIS AWAY FROM THE HEART OF THE METRO IN  
ILLINOIS AND ACROSS PORTIONS OF INTERIOR NORTHWEST INDIANA.  
 
UNUSUAL WARM AIR ADVECTION FROM THE NORTH AND EVENTUAL LOSS OF  
CLOUD ICE SHOULD TRANSITION SNOW OVER TO RAIN AND DRIZZLE WITH  
TIME DURING THE EARLY TO MID AFTERNOON (EARLIEST FAR NORTH AND  
LATEST FAR SOUTH/SOUTHEAST). WITH TEMPERATURES FORECAST TO RISE  
INTO THE 35-40F RANGE BY ABOUT 5PM CST THURSDAY, MOST OF THE  
SNOW THAT FALLS EARLIER IN THE DAY IS LIKELY TO QUICKLY MELT  
OFF. TEMPERATURES WILL THEN REMAIN NEARLY STEADY THROUGH  
THURSDAY NIGHT, PREVENTING ANY RE-FREEZE ISSUES.  
 
STRONG WEST-NORTHWEST WINDS:  
 
PRESSURE FALLS WILL MAXIMIZE IN THE EARLY TO MID AFTERNOON ON  
THURSDAY, WITH STEEPEST LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND DEEPER MIXING  
CONFINED TO AREAS WEST OF THE FOX RIVER VALLEY (ESPECIALLY  
NEAR/WEST OF I-39) WHERE PRECIP RATES WILL BE LOWER. IN THESE  
AREAS, WEST-NORTHWEST WIND GUSTS SHOULD APPROACH OR EVEN BRIEFLY  
EXCEED THE 45 MPH WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA.  
 
THURSDAY EVENING, WINDS WILL SHIFT TO NORTH-NORTHWEST AS THE  
PRESSURE FALL-RISE COUPLET TRANSLATES THE AREA, WITH STRENGTHENING  
FLOW OFF THE FRICTIONLESS LAKE INTO FAR NORTHWEST INDIANA,  
PARTICULARLY THE PORTER COUNTY SHORE. GUSTS COULD AGAIN APPROACH  
OR EXCEED 45 MPH. NO WIND ADVISORY HEADLINES WERE HOISTED WITH  
THIS AFTERNOON'S FORECAST PACKAGE, THOUGH THEY MAY NEED TO BE  
CONSIDERED WITH SUBSEQUENT UPDATES. FINALLY, THE PERSISTENCE OF  
STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS INTO PORTER COUNTY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT  
COULD LEAD TO SOME MINOR LAKESHORE FLOODING AND BEACH EROSION  
ISSUES INTO FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
CASTRO/OGOREK  
 
FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY:  
 
LONG WAVE TROUGH AND LARGE UPPER LOW IS PROGGED TO MOVE EASTWARD  
AND EVENTUALLY OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST BY LATER THIS WEEKEND  
AS THE HIGHLY AMPLIFIED PATTERN ACROSS THE U.S. IS REPLACED BY A  
MORE ZONAL FLOW. GENERALLY DRY CONDITIONS WITH MORE TYPICAL  
TEMPS FOR LATE NOVEMBER ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY. BY  
LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE  
IS IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN BRINGING A FAIRLY LOW AMPLITUDE  
SHORTWAVE RIPPLING EASTWARD THROUGH THE LARGELY ZONAL FLOW  
ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES. WARM AIR ADVECTION AND  
SOUTHERLY WINDS IN ADVANCE OF THIS WAVE SHOULD ALLOW HIGH TEMPS  
TO REBOUND BACK INTO THE 50S, THOUGH ONLY FOR A DAY...  
 
AS THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE CONTINUES EASTWARD, LOOK FOR  
ASSOCIATED SFC LOW AND TRAILING COLD FRONT TO MOVE ACROSS THE  
AREA SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY MORNING WITH COLDER AIR  
FILTERING INTO THE AREA IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. MAINTAINED  
THE LOW CHANCE POPS OFFERED UP BY THE NBM FOR LATE SUNDAY NIGHT  
INTO MONDAY, BUT WITH GULF OF MEXICO CLOSED FOR BUSINESS IN AS  
FAR AS MOISTURE RETURN GOES, AND THE LOW AMPLITUDE NATURE OF THE  
WAVE, IT IS QUITE PLAUSIBLE THAT IT COULD MOVE THROUGH WITH  
LITTLE/NO PRECIP. COLDER TEMPERATURES, EVEN SLIGHTLY BELOW  
AVERAGE FOR A CHANGE, ARE EXPECTED TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NEXT  
WEEK.  
 
- IZZI  
 

 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 535 PM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
KEY AVIATION IMPACTS FOR THE CURRENT TAF PERIOD:  
 
- SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT  
 
- AFTER A BRIEF LULL AFTER DAYBREAK, A SECOND SHOT OF SNOW  
MID TO LATE MORNING WHICH COULD HAVE A THUMPING OF WET  
SNOW WITH IFR/LIFR VISIBILITIES  
 
- SNOW TRANSITIONS TO RAIN/DRIZZLE IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT  
CONFIDENCE IS LOW ON THE EXACT TIMING  
 
- GUSTY WEST TO NORTHWEST WINDS EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD  
WITH STRONGEST GUSTS 30 TO 35 KNOTS MID TO LATE MORNING  
 
AS TEMPERATURES HAVE DROPPED, MANY LOCAL AREA WEBCAMS ARE  
SNOWING SNOWFLAKES COMING DOWN. TAFS WERE UPDATED TO PREVAIL  
SNOW SHOWERS INSTEAD OF RAIN OUT THE GATE. INTERMITTENT SNOW  
SHOWERS CAN BE EXPECTED THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. MOST  
SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE VFR VISIBILITIES, BUT OCCASIONAL  
STRONGER SHOWERS MAY HAVE VISIBILITIES DOWN TO AROUND 3SM FOR A  
SHORT WINDOW.  
 
MODELS ARE CONSISTENTLY SHOWING A BRIEF LULL IN THE SNOW SHOWERS  
JUST AFTER DAYBREAK TOMORROW, BEFORE THE NEXT WAVE MOVES  
SOUTHWARD OUT OF WISCONSIN. CONFIDENCE IS GRADUALLY INCREASING  
FOR A PERIOD OF FAIRLY ROBUST SNOW DURING THE MID TO  
LATE MORNING. SNOW RATES COULD BE SUCH THAT VISIBILITIES DROP  
DOWN TO IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS. IT WAS DECIDED TO LEAVE THE TIME  
PERIOD IN QUESTION AS A PROB30 FOR NOW, BUT AS THE 00Z MODEL  
GUIDANCE COMES IN, IF TRENDS REMAIN, THEN IT IS LIKELY THAT WILL BE  
CONVERTED TO A TEMPO. SOME SLUSHY ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE,  
DURING THE HIGHEST SNOW RATES.  
 
GRADUALLY WARMER TEMPERATURES WILL TRANSITION THE SNOW TO RAIN  
AND DRIZZLE IN THE AFTERNOON, THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS LOWER ON THE  
EXACT TIMING OF TRANSITION. SHOWERS MAY LINGER THROUGH THE  
AFTERNOON BEFORE DRIER CONDITIONS MOVE IN AFTER 00Z.  
 
LASTLY, WINDS ARE CURRENTLY OUT OF THE WEST WITH GUSTS TO 30  
KNOTS AND INTERMITTENT GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS. THOSE GUSTS ARE EXPECT  
TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH DOWN TO 20 TO 25 KNOTS OVERNIGHT AND  
BECOME OUT OF THE NORTHWEST. HOWEVER, AS THE NEXT WAVE MOVES  
DOWN WITH THE SNOW, WIND GUSTS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE ONCE  
AGAIN WITH PREVAILING GUSTS 30-35 KNOTS EXPECTED. STRONG WINDS  
ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO THE AFTERNOON BEFORE GRADUALLY  
DIMINISHING INTO THE EVENING AND PIVOTING MORE TO THE NORTH-  
NORTHWEST.  
 
DK  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ISSUED AT 640 PM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
- GALE WATCH UPGRADED TO A GALE WARNING THURSDAY MORNING INTO  
THURSDAY EVENING. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT  
TONIGHT.  
 
STRONG AND GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS WILL CONTINUE THIS EVENING AND  
OVERNIGHT. WHILE SOME INTERMITTENT GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS  
ARE LIKELY TONIGHT (MAINLY ON ELEVATED PLATFORMS), A STRONGER  
PUSH OF NORTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL ARRIVE THROUGH THURSDAY  
MORNING. FREQUENT 40 TO 45 KNOT GALES ARE EXPECTED, ESPECIALLY  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON. WINDS WILL TURN NORTH AND EVENTUALLY  
NORTHEASTERLY THURSDAY EVENING.  
 
ONCE GALES SUBSIDE THURSDAY NIGHT, SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WILL  
BE NEEDED INTO FRIDAY EVENING FOR THE ILLINOIS NEARSHORE AND  
INTO SATURDAY MORNING FOR THE INDIANA NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 

 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM CST THURSDAY FOR THE IL  
NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
GALE WARNING FROM 7 AM THURSDAY TO MIDNIGHT CST THURSDAY NIGHT  
FOR THE IL NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THURSDAY FOR THE IN  
NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 
GALE WARNING FROM 10 AM THURSDAY TO MIDNIGHT CST THURSDAY  
NIGHT FOR THE IN NEARSHORE WATERS.  
 

 
 

 
 
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