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FXUS63 KLOT 180336  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
936 PM CST TUE DEC 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- BRIEF PERIOD OF SNOW EXPECTED OVERNIGHT INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY  
MORNING WITH POSSIBLE TRAVEL IMPACTS FOR THE EARLY WEDNESDAY  
MORNING COMMUTE, MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF I-88.  
 
- ANOTHER ROUND OF SNOW AND TRAVEL IMPACTS POSSIBLE THURSDAY  
INTO FRIDAY MORNING, PARTICULARLY FOR AREAS NORTH OF I-80.  
 
- PERIODS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW POSSIBLE FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH  
SATURDAY NIGHT MAY INCLUDE PARTS OF NORTHEAST IL AT TIMES.  
 
 
   
UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 936 PM CST TUE DEC 17 2024  
 
THE MAIN FORECAST CONCERN INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING COMMUTE  
CONTINUES TO BE THE THREAT FOR QUICK HITTING BAND OF ACCUMULATING  
SNOW ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL. THIS BAND IS QUICKLY ORGANIZING  
JUST WEST AND NORTHWEST OF OUR AREA EARLY THIS EVENING, RIGHT  
ALONG A STRENGTHENING BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS CENTERED NEAR 700 MB.  
THE EXPECTATION IS FOR THIS BAND OF SNOW TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING  
EASTWARD INTO FAR NORTHERN IL (AREAS MAINLY RIGHT ALONG AND NEAR  
THE WI STATE LINE) THROUGH MIDNIGHT. THEREAFTER, WE SHOULD SEE THE  
SOUTHWEST-TO-NORTHEAST ORIENTED PORTION OF THE BAND BEGIN TO  
SLIDE EASTWARD ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL OVERNIGHT (ESPECIALLY AREAS  
NORTH OF THE I-88 CORRIDOR). THIS IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE A FAST  
MOVING BAND OF SNOW, LIKELY ONLY LASTING 2 TO 4 HOURS AT ANY GIVEN  
LOCATION. WHILE THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE BAND WILL LIMIT  
TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TO GENERALLY UNDER AN INCH, THE RATE AT  
WHICH IT FALLS OVERNIGHT MAY RESULT IN ROADS QUICKLY BECOMING SNOW  
COVERED AND SLICK ACROSS PARTS OF FAR NORTHERN IL.  
 
THE ONLY REAL CHANGE TO THE GOING FORECAST WAS TO PUSH THE SNOW  
AMOUNTS (OF UP TO AN INCH) A BIT FARTHER NORTH, ESPECIALLY  
NORTH OF I-88. THIS IS WHERE THE PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO  
REMAIN ALL SNOW. FARTHER SOUTH, LIGHTER PRECIPITATION AND  
SLIGHTLY WARMER LOW-LEVEL TEMPERATURES COULD SUPPORT A MIX OF  
LIGHT SNOW AND RAIN/FREEZING RAIN, THUS LIMITING AMOUNTS TO A  
LIGHT COATING. THE BAND OF PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO QUICKLY  
SWEEP EAST OF THE AREA EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING.  
 
KJB  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 256 PM CST TUE DEC 17 2024  
 
THROUGH WEDNESDAY:  
 
EARLY THIS AFTERNOON, WE FIND A TIGHTENING AREA OF SURFACE LOW  
PRESSURE COMING OFF THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES. ALONG ITS NORTHERN  
FRINGES IS A LARGE REGION OF LOW-MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AS A  
SPEEDY MERIDIONAL LOW LEVEL JET/WARM CONVEYOR BELT UNDERCUTS  
DIVERGENT ZONAL FLOW ON THE TAIL END OF A MID LEVEL JET MAX. A  
LARGE SWATH OF MOSTLY LIGHT, SOME MODERATE, SNOW COINCIDES WITH  
THE REGION OF F-GEN. THE BULK OF THE FRONTOGENETIC FORCING EXISTS  
NEAR THE IA/NE/MN TRIPOINT AT THE TIME THIS WAS WRITTEN (ROUGHLY 1  
PM), BUT EXTENDS AS FAR EAST AS EASTERN IA WITH SOME LIGHT SNOW  
BEING REPORTED ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTH-CENTRAL IA. THIS REGION OF  
F-GEN WILL TRANSLATE EASTWARD AND MOVE OVER NORTHERN IL LATE THIS  
EVENING AND OVERNIGHT.  
 
THERE REMAINS A FAIR DEAL OF DISCREPANCY AMONG GUIDANCE  
REGARDING THE STRENGTH OF THE F-GEN FORCING TONIGHT. THE  
CANADIAN AND ESPECIALLY GFS HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN THE LEAST  
EXCITED ABOUT THIS FEATURE AND OFFER UP THE LEAST QPF ACROSS  
GUIDANCE. EVEN THEIR RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLE SYSTEMS ARE HEAVILY  
CLUSTERED AROUND GENERALLY LOWER QPF AND SNOW AMOUNTS THAN OTHER  
GUIDANCE. MOST OF THE HIGH-RES CAMPS, HOWEVER, ARE MUCH MORE  
AGGRESSIVE WITH THE FORCING AND, IN TURN, THE SNOWFALL. THIS IS  
A TYPICAL FINDING IN SUCH ENVIRONMENTS WITH THE COARSER MEDIUM-  
RANGE GUIDANCE OFTEN WINDING UP UNDERPLAYING THE MAGNITUDE OF  
THE F-GEN. THEREFORE, MORE EGGS WERE THROWN INTO THE HIGH-RES  
MODEL BASKET WHEN BUILDING THIS FORECAST.  
 
WE SHOULD FIND PRECIP STARTING TO MOVE INTO OUR WEST LATE THIS  
EVENING AND MOVE ACROSS THE CWA THROUGH THE NIGHT AND INTO EARLY  
WEDNESDAY, WHICH LEAVES CONCERNS REGARDING THE MORNING COMMUTE.  
A BIG MAJORITY OF THE PRECIP WE SEE TONIGHT WILL BE IN THE FORM  
OF SNOW, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT A LITTLE RAIN MIXES IN DURING  
ONSET AS WE WAIT FOR THE LOW LEVELS TOO COOL OFF SOME. THE  
SNOWFALL LOOKS TO BE GENERALLY ON THE LIGHTER SIDE, BUT A MORE  
BONAFIDE BAND OF MODERATE SNOW WITH RATES NEAR 0.5"/HR CERTAINLY  
SEEMS PLAUSIBLE WITH THIS F-GEN SIGNATURE. THIS WOULD BE ENOUGH  
TO COAT EVEN THE WARMEST OF ROADS AND LEAD TO ADVERSE TRAVEL  
CONDITIONS DURING THE MORNING COMMUTE. LUCKILY, THE BULK OF THE  
SNOW AND ESPECIALLY THE HEAVIER SNOW POTENTIAL SHOULD BE MOVING  
OUT OF THE CHICAGO METRO RIGHT AS THE MORNING COMMUTE REALLY  
TAKES OFF BETWEEN 5 AND 6 AM. NONETHELESS, SOME ROADS MAY REMAIN  
SLICK WELL INTO THE MORNING. SNOW TOTALS ARE LOOKING LIKE  
ANYWHERE FROM A FEW TENTHS TO AROUND AN INCH, ALTHOUGH WOULD NOT  
BE SHOCKED TO SEE A SWATH OF 1-2" TOTALS IF THIS BAND PERFORMS  
TO ITS POTENTIAL. MODELS ARE GENERALLY FAVORING HIGHER  
ACCUMULATIONS NORTH OF I-88 AND TOWARD THE WI STATE LINE.  
 
FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST LOCALIZED POCKETS OF FREEZING RAIN  
MAY ALSO BE IN THE CARDS, ESPECIALLY TOWARD THE END OF THE  
EVENT AS THE MID LEVELS START TO DRY WHICH COULD EAT AWAY AT  
CLOUD GLACIATION. SURFACE TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO BOTTOM  
OUT JUST BELOW FREEZING FOR AREAS GENERALLY NORTH OF I-80 AND  
WEST OF I-355 AND NEAR OR ABOVE FREEZING ELSEWHERE. HOWEVER, IT  
LOOKS AS THOUGH MOST OF THE PRECIP SHOULD COME AND GO PRIOR TO  
TEMPERATURES DROPPING BELOW FREEZING AND, COMING OFF A SOMEWHAT  
MILD TUESDAY, ROAD TEMPERATURES SHOULD LAG THE AMBIENT AIR  
TEMPERATURE IN FALLING BELOW FREEZING. BASICALLY, THIS IS TO SAY  
THAT FREEZING RAIN IMPACTS, IF ANY, LOOK TO BE VERY LOCALIZED  
AND LIKELY TO RESTRICTED TO RURAL AND LESS- TRAVELED ROADS  
OUTSIDE OF THE CHICAGO METRO. THIS POTENTIAL MAY JUST END UP  
BEING A PERIOD OF DRIZZLE TO WRAP THINGS UP IN THE MORNING.  
HOWEVER, WITH THE LOW LEVELS EXPECTED TO DRY OUT QUICKLY DURING  
THE EARLY MORNING, THIS SHOULD BE A SHORT-LIVED POTENTIAL.  
 
WE MAY SEE A TRANSITION TO MORE OF A MIX OR TO ALL RAIN NEAR AND  
OVER NORTHWEST INDIANA AFTER SUNRISE AS THIS STUFF STILL WORKS  
OUT OF THE AREA. WE SHOULD BE PRECIP-FREE BY THE END OF THE  
MORNING WITH HIGH PRESSURE MOVING IN FROM THE WEST EATING AWAY  
AT CLOUD COVER DURING THE AFTERNOON. TOMORROW WILL BE SEVERAL  
DEGREES COOLER THAN TODAY WITH HIGHS PROGGED AT OR JUST ABOVE  
FREEZING.  
 
DOOM  
 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY:  
 
THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...  
 
DISCUSSION LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT. THE FOCUS  
REMAINS ON SEVERAL PERIODS OF SNOW LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY  
AND AGAIN ON SATURDAY, WITH NO MAJOR SHIFTS IN FORECAST  
GUIDANCE.  
 
THERE REMAINS FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT IN A VIGOROUS CLIPPER TYPE  
WAVE MOVING ACROSS THE UPPER MS VALLEY AND WESTERN GREAT  
LAKES. A DISTINCT MAJORITY OF MOST RECENT OPERATIONAL MODELS AND  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS GENERALLY FAVOR NORTH OF OUR AREA WHERE THE  
BETTER MID LEVEL MOISTURE IS AVAILABLE FOR THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL  
FOR A FEW TO SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION. HOWEVER,  
GIVEN THE STRONGEST 500 MB FORCING WITH THE PARENT SHORT-WAVE  
PUSHING ACROSS ILLINOIS, THERE STILL APPEARS TO BE MEANINGFUL  
WIGGLE ROOM IN THE TRACK OF THE CLIPPER. EVEN IN THE CURRENT  
GENERAL CONSENSUS, NORTH-SOUTH DIFFERENCES IN THE EXACT TRACK OF  
THE WEAK SURFACE LOW ARE IMPORTANT.  
 
POPS ARE INTRODUCED IN THE FORECAST IN THE 20-30% RANGE INTO  
FAR NORTHERN ILLINOIS AS EARLY AS THURSDAY MORNING AS THE SYSTEM  
STARTS TO MOVE OVER THE STATE. HOWEVER, THERE IS LOWER  
CONFIDENCE IN ONSET TIME IF THE COLUMN IS STILL BE TOO DRY FOR  
WARM ADVECTION SNOW. IF THE CLIPPER SURFACE LOW TRACKS FAR  
ENOUGH SOUTH, THE ACCUMULATING SNOW BAND(S) IN WISCONSIN COULD  
CONCEIVABLY PIVOT INTO AREAS NORTH OF I-88 LATE THURSDAY  
AFTERNOON AND THURSDAY EVENING, WHERE OUR GRIDS HAVE SOME POPS  
UP TO LIKELY/60% AND THESE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED IN THE AFTERNOON  
FORECAST PACKAGE. CONCEPTUALLY, SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS MAY  
OCCUR FARTHER SOUTH NEAR THE CORE OF THE MID- LEVEL PVA AS LAPSE  
RATES STEEPEN FROM COLD (NEAR -30C AT 500 MB) TEMPS ALOFT.  
LATEST 12Z GUIDANCE KEPT THE TRACK SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS RUNS, BUT  
SHOWS A SLIGHTLY WEAKER LOW.  
 
LATER THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING, IN A STRENGTHENING  
NORTHERLY COLD ADVECTION REGIME ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE CLIPPER,  
AREAS OF SNOW/SNOW SHOWERS SHOULD EXTEND FARTHER SOUTH. WE'LL  
ALSO HAVE TO MONITOR FOR LAKE ENHANCEMENT FROM EASTERN WI  
SOUTHWARD INTO NORTHEAST ILLINOIS. MAIN TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE  
CURRENT BEST CHANCE FOR TRAVEL IMPACTS IN ANY PORTION OF OUR  
AREA APPEARS TO BE THE THURSDAY EVENING COMMUTE THROUGH THE  
FRIDAY MORNING COMMUTE.  
 
EXPANSIVE NEAR 1040 MB HIGH PRESSURE WILL SLOWLY BUILD IN FROM  
THE NORTHWEST FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, TYPICALLY A FAVORABLE  
SETUP FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW ON SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN. 850 MB  
TEMPS FORECAST TO GET DOWN INTO THE -12 TO -15 CELSIUS RANGE  
SUGGEST FAVORABLE THERMODYNAMICS AND LAKE INDUCED INSTABILITY  
GIVEN LAKE TEMPS STILL IN THE 40S. MODEL FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALSO  
INDICATE SUFFICIENT MOISTURE AND INVERSION HEIGHTS TO SUPPORT  
HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. THE BIGGEST UNANSWERABLE QUESTION AT THIS  
POINT IS EXACTLY HOW BOUNDARY LAYER CONVERGENCE SETS UP,  
DICTATING THE TRAJECTORY OF LAKE EFFECT BAND(S). BASED ON OUR  
FORECAST WIND DIRECTIONS, NORTHWEST INDIANA MAY BE MORE FAVORED  
FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY, POSSIBLY MIGRATING  
WESTWARD INTO NORTHEAST IL AND FAR NW INDIANA ON SATURDAY-  
SATURDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER WILDCARD FOR THE LAKE EFFECT IS THE  
INFLUENCE OF MESOLOW DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT OCCURS.  
 
ASIDE FROM THE LAKE EFFECT POTENTIAL, CAN'T COMPLETELY RULE OUT  
A WEAKENING BAND OF SNOW APPROACHING OUR WESTERN CWA SATURDAY  
MORNING. OTHERWISE, THE BIGGER STORY WILL BE A STRETCH OF BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS LOOKS TO BE SHORT-  
LIVED, WITH VERY STRONG MEDIUM-RANGE GUIDANCE AGREEMENT IN A  
PATTERN CHANGE TO MILDER CONDITIONS FOR THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS.  
ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING THAT AT SOME POINT ANOTHER  
DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE WEST TO EAST ON OR AROUND CHRISTMAS EVE.  
BUT WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS DISAGREEING ON TIME AND LOCATION, IT  
IS HARD TO HAVE CONFIDENCE TO SAY HOW WET THINGS WOULD BE  
 
CASTRO/DK  
 
 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 543 PM CST TUE DEC 17 2024  
 
FORECAST CONCERNS INCLUDE...  
 
PERIOD OF LIGHT SNOW WITH IFR VIS, POSSIBLE IFR CIGS OVERNIGHT.  
MVFR CIGS WEDNESDAY.  
GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
AN AREA OF LIGHT SNOW CURRENTLY ACROSS SOUTHERN MN AND NORTHERN  
IA WILL MOVE ACROSS NORTHERN IL OVERNIGHT WITH LIGHT SNOW  
EXPECTED AT ALL OF THE TERMINALS. THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THE  
SNOW MAY MIX WITH RAIN ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE  
PRECIPITATION, POSSIBLY ALONG A VYS/LOT/MDW LINE. DURATION  
LOOKS TO BE RELATIVELY SHORT, 2-4 HOURS AT ANY ONE LOCATION.  
VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY TO DROP INTO THE 1-2SM RANGE WITH LOW  
MVFR CIGS EXPECTED AND IFR CIGS POSSIBLE. THE PRECIPITATION WILL  
END FROM WEST TO EAST, ENDING FOR THE CHICAGO TERMINALS AROUND  
DAYBREAK. MVFR CIGS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON WEDNESDAY,  
POSSIBLY SCATTERING OUT WEDNESDAY EVENING.  
 
WINDS WILL LIKELY BECOME LIGHT AND VARIABLE FOR MUCH OF THE AREA  
THIS EVENING. WHEN DIRECTIONS DO OCCUR, THEY'LL START WEST/  
SOUTHWESTERLY AND TURN MORE NORTHWESTERLY LATE THIS EVENING WITH  
LIGHT NORTH/NORTHWEST WINDS EXPECTED OVERNIGHT. WINDS WILL TURN  
BACK TO THE NORTHWEST WEDNESDAY MORNING AND INCREASE INTO THE  
10-15KT RANGE WITH GUSTS INTO THE LOWER 20KT RANGE POSSIBLE  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, DIMINISHING WITH SUNSET. CMS  
 
 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 3 PM TO 10 PM CST WEDNESDAY FOR GARY  
TO BURNS HARBOR IN-BURNS HARBOR TO MICHIGAN CITY IN.  
 
 
 
 
 
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