854  
FXUS63 KLOT 181739  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
1139 AM CST WED DEC 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SOME SNOW IS PROBABLE AS EARLY AS THURSDAY, BUT MORE SO  
THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. BEST CHANCES FOR  
ACCUMULATION ARE NORTH OF I-80 AND PARTICULARLY CLOSER TO THE  
WI/IL BORDER.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWER THREAT RAMPS UP LATE THURSDAY NIGHT  
AND POTENTIALLY CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING. TOO EARLY  
FOR SPECIFIC, BUT SOME MEANINGFUL LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE SOMEWHERE IN OUR CWA.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 329 AM CST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
THROUGH TONIGHT:  
 
MAIN CONCERN OVERNIGHT HAD BEEN THE NARROW F-GEN DRIVEN SNOW  
BAND THAT PRODUCED MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW RATES PRIMARILY NORTH  
OF I-88 AND WEST OF I-355 AND I-94 (IN LAKE CO) OVERNIGHT. THE  
BAND HAS INDEED WEAKENED STEADILY WITHIN THE PAST HOUR (AS OF  
THIS WRITING), MUCH SLOWER THAN DEPICTED BY MOST NEAR-TERM  
GUIDANCE. IF THIS WEAKENING TREND CONTINUES AND NO  
REINTENSIFICATION IS NOTED, THE CHANCES FOR WINTRY TRAVEL  
IMPACTS FARTHER SOUTH ARE MUCH LOWER THAN FEARED GIVEN TEMPS  
STILL ABOVE FREEZING AT THIS TIME. CHANCES ARE INCREASING THAT  
THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN CHICAGO METRO, AND REALLY ANYWHERE NEAR  
AND SOUTH OF I-80 VERY WELL COULD BE SPARED. THIS WOULD BE  
ASIDE FROM TEMPORARY VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS FROM SLIGHTLY HIGHER  
SNOWFALL RATES AT TIMES AS THE BROKEN BAND OF SNOW PROGRESSES  
SOUTHEAST. THERE ALSO COULD BE RAIN MIXED IN AT TIMES NEAR AND  
SOUTHEAST OF I-55.  
 
ONCE THE LIGHT SNOW AND ANY RAIN COMES TO AN END BY THE MID TO  
LATE MORNING, THE REST OF THE DAY WILL BE QUIET WITH BREEZY  
NORTHWESTERLY WINDS. CONFIDENCE IS LOW IN SKY COVER TRENDS, AS A  
LARGE EXPANSE OF STRATUS (WITH SOME HOLES IN IT) EXTENDS WELL  
UPSTREAM. ANY MEANINGFUL CLEARING WOULD LIKELY BE TOWARD OR AFTER  
SUNSET AND BE SHORT-LIVED AS SKIES ONCE AGAIN BECOME MOSTLY CLOUDY  
OVERNIGHT. THIS WILL RESULT IN A SMALLER DIURNAL TEMPERATURE  
RANGE WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE 32-37F RANGE, MILDEST SOUTHEAST, AND  
LOWS OF 22-28F TONIGHT. IF SKIES REMAIN CLEAR ENOUGH FOR LONGER  
THAN EXPECTED THROUGH LATE EVENING PRIOR TO MID-HIGH CLOUDS  
ARRIVING IN IN ADVANCE OF THURSDAY'S CLIPPER SYSTEM, THEN LOWS  
MAY BE A BIT COOLER IN SPOTS.  
 
CASTRO  
 
THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY:  
 
THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING  
 
ATTENTION WILL QUICKLY TURN TO THE NEXT SYSTEM THAT WILL BE HOT  
ON THE HEELS OF THIS MORNING'S. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY EARLY THIS  
MORNING SHOWS AN MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OFF THE COASTS OF  
BRITISH COLUMBIA AND THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, WITH A COUPLE OF  
EMBEDDED CLOSED LOWS. THE SOUTHERN CLOSED CIRCULATION IS PROGGED  
TO BREAK AWAY FROM THE ONE OFF THE BC COAST AND MOVE QUICKLY  
EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TODAY, THEN DIG SOUTHEAST FROM  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS TONIGHT TO THE MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND  
WESTERN GREAT LAKES.  
 
SOME PRETTY SIZABLE DIFFERENCES EXIST BETWEEN THE GLOBAL MODELS  
AND THE CAMS WITH RESPECT TO THE STRUCTURE AND TRACK OF WHAT  
LOOKS TO BE A SOMEWHAT COMPLEX TROUGH. GFS/ECMWF/GEM SHOW TWO  
DISTINCT VORTS EMBEDDED WITHIN THIS TROUGH AS IT DIGS SOUTHEAST  
INTO REGION THURSDAY, WITH LEAD VORT AFFECTING OUR AREA DURING  
THE DAY THURSDAY WITH POTENTIAL FOR WARM AIR ADVECTION DRIVEN  
PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING DURING THE DAY. STRONGEST FORCING AND  
BEST CHANCE OF SNOW DURING THE DAY WILL BE ACROSS OUR NORTHERN  
CWA, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE IL/WI BORDER.  
 
SECONDARY VORT EMBEDDED WITHIN THIS BROADER TROUGH IS PROGGED TO  
STRENGTHEN AS IT DIGS SOUTHEAST TO DOWNSTATE IL THURSDAY NIGHT.  
ASSOCIATED SFC LOW IS PROGGED TO MOVE INTO NORTHERN IL THURSDAY  
EVENING. WHILE THERMAL PROFILES AND EXPLICIT MODEL OUTPUT  
SUGGEST PRECIP WILL BE ALL SNOW, SFC LOW TRACK THIS FAR NORTH  
SUGGESTS THAT PRECIP SHOULD DECREASE IN INTENSITY OR END FOR A  
TIME. WE COULD EVEN SEE A BIT OF LIGHT RAIN, DRIZZLE, OR SLEET  
MIXING IN FOR A TIME THURSDAY EVENING, ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF  
I-88/I-290.  
 
THEN AS THE SFC LOW AND ASSOCIATED MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH  
CONTINUE EASTWARD, A COLD FRONT EXTENDING WEST FROM THIS LOW IS  
SHOULD MOVE SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA SHIFTING WINDS TO NORTH AND  
ALLOWING COLDER AIR TO SPILL INTO THE AREA. STRONG COLD LOW/MID  
LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION SHOULD SIGNIFICANTLY STEEPEN UP LAPSE  
RATES, WITH FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM THE GFS AND PARTICULARLY  
ECMWF LOOKING QUITE SUPPORTIVE OF SOME HEALTHY SNOW SHOWERS  
LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE  
EASTERN HALF OR TWO THIRDS OF THE CWA. IF THE CURRENT FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS END UP CLOSE TO VERIFYING, WE'LL NEED TO WATCH FOR THE  
POTENTIAL FOR SOME IMPACTFUL/BRIEFLY HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS  
ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT IN THE 3-9 AM CST TIME RANGE  
FRIDAY. SYSTEM SNOWS SHOULD EXIT STAGE RIGHT BY MID-LATE MORNING  
FRIDAY, THOUGH CERTAINLY CAN'T RULE OUT SOME LINGERING FLURRIES  
INTO THE AFTERNOON.  
 
IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE ABOVE  
DISCUSSION. FIRST, THAT IS BASED ON THE ECMWF/GFS/GEM SOLUTIONS  
WHICH HAVE REASONABLY STRONG SUPPORT FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE  
ENSEMBLES. IF THEY WERE TREND FARTHER NORTH (WHICH IS CERTAINLY  
POSSIBLE), MORE IN LINE WITH THE NAM/CAM GUIDANCE, THEN WINTRY  
WX IMPACTS HERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. ALSO, WORTH NOTING  
THAT THE DUAL VORT STRUCTURE OF THE TROUGH LIKELY LENDS TO SOME  
MORE ROOM FOR ERROR IN THE MODELS' HANDLING OF THE INTERACTION  
OF THE TO VORTS, WHICH ULTIMATELY COULD IMPACT THE TRACK OF THIS  
SYSTEM AND THE LOCATION OF BETTER FORCING. DUE TO THIS,  
FORECAST CONFIDENCE IS ON THE LOWER RANGE OF THE SPECTRUM.  
 
LAKE EFFECT LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING:  
 
ATTENTION WILL TURN TO LAKE EFFECT SNOW THREAT ON THE BACK SIDE  
OF THIS SYSTEM. AS MENTIONED ABOVE, VERY STEEP LOW/MID LEVEL  
LAPSE RATES IN THE COLD AIR ADVECTION REGIME ON THE BACK SIDE OF  
THIS SYSTEM WITH FURTHER ACCENTUATE THE LAKE INDUCED  
INSTABILITY, LIKELY RESULTING IN A WINDOW OF SOME VERY FAVORABLE  
LAKE EFFECT THERMODYNAMICS.  
 
BACKING LOW LEVEL FLOW IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING LOW SHOULD  
RESULT IN LAKE EFFECT SNOW INITIALLY OVER EASTERN WI THURSDAY  
NIGHT, GRADUALLY SHIFTING SOUTHWARD AND POTENTIALLY INTO NE IL  
AND THE CHICAGO AREA LATE THURSDAY NIGHT/EARLY FRIDAY MORNING,  
BEFORE ULTIMATELY SHIFTING INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA LATER FRIDAY  
MORNING AND FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW IN THE GFS  
WOULD KEEP THE LAKE EFFECT THREAT INTO NORTHEAST ILLINOIS MUCH  
LONGER THAN THE ECMWF, BUT LOOKS PRETTY WONKY AND REALLY DOESN'T  
FIT WELL WITH CONCEPTUAL MODEL AND CLIMO, SO SIDED WITH THE  
ECMWF AND KEEP THE LES MORE PROGRESSIVELY MOVING INTO NORTHWEST  
INDIANA.  
 
GIVEN THE IMPRESSIVE THERMODYNAMICS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING  
ADVERTISED, THERE COULD BE A QUICK, BUT MEANINGFUL THUMPING OF  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW SOMEWHERE IN OUR CWA IN THE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING TIME FRAME. FAR TOO EARLY TO GET INTO  
SPECIFICS REGARDING AMOUNTS OF LOCATION. ALSO, SIMILARLY TO WHAT  
WAS MENTIONED IN THE SYNOPTIC DISCUSSION OF THIS SYSTEM, THIS IS  
LAKE EFFECT FORECAST IS BASED ON THE GLOBAL MODEL CONSENSUS  
TRACK OF THE SFC LOW ACROSS NORTHERN IL. IF THE TRACK WERE TO  
END UP FARTHER NORTH, MORE IN LINE WITH THE NAM/CAM GUIDANCE,  
THEN THE LAKE EFFECT THREAT INTO NE IL WOULD BE MUCH LOWER AND  
THE BRUNT OF THE LAKE EFFECT COULD END UP AFFECTING NORTHEASTERN  
PORTER COUNTY AND POINTS EASTWARD. STAY TUNED...  
 
FRIDAY NIGHT ONWARD:  
 
AFTER INVERSION HEIGHTS LOWER AND WINDS BACK PUSHING LAKE EFFECT  
THREAT EAST OF OUR AREA LATER FRIDAY NIGHT, THE GFS AND ECMWF  
SUGGEST THERE COULD BE A BRIEF RETURN OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS INTO OUR NW IN LAKE SNOW BELT COUNTIES LATER SATURDAY  
INTO SATURDAY EVENING WITH A WEAK SECONDARY PUSH OF COLD AIR.  
 
THAT LAST GASP OF COLD AIR CURRENTLY LOOKS SHORT LIVED WITH THE  
UPPER TROUGH MOVING EAST AND WARM AIR ADVECTION BEGINNING BY  
LATE SUNDAY AND IN EARNEST BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES  
SHOULD REBOUND BACK TO ABOVE AVERAGE WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR  
SOME RAIN WITH THE NEXT SYSTEM EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
- IZZI  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z FRIDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1139 AM CST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
FORECAST CONCERNS FOR THE TERMINALS...  
 
- PERIODS OF VFR/MVFR CEILINGS THIS AFTERNOON BECOMING VFR  
OVERNIGHT  
 
- BREEZY SOUTH-SOUTHEAST WINDS THURSDAY AFTERNOON  
 
- LOW CHANCE (LESS THAN 15%) FOR FLURRIES THURSDAY  
AFTERNOON/EVENING  
 
A BROAD AREA OF 2500-3500 FT CLOUDS CONTINUES TO ADVANCE OUT OF  
WI TOWARDS NORTHERN IL WHICH LOOKS TO PERSIST THROUGH EARLY  
EVENING. WHILE MOST UPSTREAM OBSERVATION ARE SOLIDLY IN THE  
MVFR CATEGORY, THERE CONTINUES TO BE SEVERAL VFR OBSERVATIONS AS  
WELL SO EXPECT THE CEILINGS TO LIKELY FLUCTUATE BETWEEN MVFR  
AND VFR THIS AFTERNOON. REGARDLESS, CEILINGS SHOULD LIFT ABOVE  
3500 FT AFTER MIDNIGHT AS A WEAK SURFACE HIGH PIVOTS THROUGH AND  
WORKS TO SCATTER OUT THE LOWER CLOUDS.  
 
OTHERWISE, WINDS TODAY WILL REMAIN A TAD BREEZY OUT OF THE  
NORTHWEST WITH OCCASIONAL GUSTS IN THE 15-20 KT RANGE THIS  
AFTERNOON. THOUGH, THE AFOREMENTIONED HIGH WILL ALLOW WINDS TO  
EASE THIS EVENING AND BECOME LIGHT AND VARIABLE OVERNIGHT. WINDS  
WILL BECOME SOUTHERLY THURSDAY MORNING AND THEN SOUTH-  
SOUTHEASTERLY BY 18Z THURSDAY WITH GUSTS IN THE UPPER TEEN TO  
LOWER 20 KT RANGE POSSIBLE THURSDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
FINALLY, THERE IS ALSO A GROWING POTENTIAL FOR A SOME FLURRIES  
TO DEVELOP THURSDAY AFTERNOON AHEAD OF AN UPPER-LEVEL  
DISTURBANCE. SINCE THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO  
HOW MUCH MID-LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE PRESENT, CONFIDENCE ON THE  
FLURRIES IS TOO LOW TO WARRANT A FORMAL MENTION IN THE TAFS AT  
THIS TIME. THAT SAID, IF FLURRIES DO MATERIALIZE ANY ASSOCIATED  
ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT DUE TO POOR SNOW  
QUALITY.  
 
YACK  
 

 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 10 PM CST  
THIS EVENING FOR GARY TO BURNS HARBOR IN-BURNS HARBOR TO  
MICHIGAN CITY IN.  
 

 
 

 
 
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