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FXUS66 KLOX 162234  
AFDLOX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA  
234 PM PST THU JAN 16 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS  
16/136 PM.  
 
COOLER TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS ONSHORE  
FLOW RETURNS. MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS  
COAST AND VALLEY AREAS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY MORNINGS. ANOTHER SANTA  
ANA WIND EVENT IS POSSIBLE LATER MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. MUCH BELOW  
NORMAL DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE THROUGH  
MOST OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (TDY-SUN)  
16/212 PM.  
 
WINDS HAVE MORE OR LESS RETURNED TO NORMAL WITH ONSHORE BREEZES  
NOW WELL INTO THE INTERIOR. HUMIDITIES HAVE BEEN SLOWER TO RECOVER  
AND ARE STILL MOSTLY BELOW 30 PERCENT EXCEPT RIGHT AT THE  
IMMEDIATE COAST. TEMPERATURES TODAY WERE 4-8 DEGREES COOLER  
ACROSS COAST BUT NOT SO MUCH INLAND.  
 
TONIGHT MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW INCREASING ONSHORE FLOW AND THE  
EVENTUAL RETURN OF MARINE LAYER STRATUS. CONFIDENCE IN THIS PART  
OF THE FORECAST IS DEFINITELY ON THE LOWER SIDE GIVEN THE  
HUNDREDS OF MILES OF MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TO OUR WEST AND STILL VERY  
LOW HUMIDITIES OVER THE MAINLAND. THE HREF INCREASED CHANCES OF  
STRATUS DEVELOPMENT FROM 50 TO ALMOST 70 PERCENT TONIGHT AND  
FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE A RAPIDLY DEEPENING MARINE INVERSION  
FROM BASICALLY THE SURFACE TO 3000 FEET SATURDAY MORNING. SO WILL  
STICK WITH LOW CLOUDS AND FOG DEVELOPING AT LEAST BY EARLY  
SATURDAY AND SPREADING INTO THE COASTAL VALLEYS. WOULD NOT BE ALL  
THAT SURPRISED IF THIS DID NOT PAN OUT BUT CHANCES ARE HIGHER THAT  
IT WILL.  
 
THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARINE LAYER HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON  
THE OVERNIGHT NIGHT LOWS. IT'S BEEN QUITE COLD AT NIGHT LATELY IN  
WIND PROTECTED AREAS AND BUT THE SWITCH TO ONSHORE FLOW AND THE  
LIKELY FORMATION OF A LOW CLOUD DECK COULD LEAD TO MUCH WARMER  
OVERNIGHT LOWS, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE CLOUDS DEVELOP. GIVEN THAT  
CLOUDS SHOULD FORM FAIRLY LATE AT NIGHT, WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED  
ANOTHER ROUND OF FREEZE/FROST HAZARDS, BUT THIS MAY NOT PAN OUT IN  
SOME OR EVEN MOST AREAS. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF A DEEP STRATUS  
DEVELOPS AS THE HIGH RES MODELS ARE INDICATING, THERE IS ALSO A  
CHANCE OF SOME MORNING DRIZZLE, ESPECIALLY IN UPSLOPE AREAS.  
 
A SIMILAR SCENARIO IS POSSIBLE SATURDAY MORNING, HOWEVER MODELS  
CONTINUE TO INDICATE A 5.1MB OFFSHORE TREND SO IT'S UNCERTAIN HOW  
THIS WILL IMPACT THE STRATUS FORMATION. OVERALL, TEMPERATURES  
EXPECTED TO BE QUITE COOL OVER THE WEEKEND WITH HIGHS TOPPING OUT  
AROUND 60 FOR COAST AND VALLEYS.  
   
LONG TERM (MON-THU)  
16/233 PM.  
 
THE ECMWF ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO FAVOR LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY FOR  
THE RETURN OF OFFSHORE WINDS FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF A VERY LARGE  
AND VERY COLD LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT WILL BRING MUCH COLDER THAN  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES TO MOST OF THE US NEXT WEEK. DETERMINISTIC  
SOLUTIONS ARE STILL BOUNCING AROUND QUITE A BIT, WITH THE 00Z  
ECMWF LAST NIGHT PREDICTING A -9.7 LAX/DAG GRADIENT NEXT THURSDAY,  
ONLY TO SHIFT GEARS AND MOVE THAT TUESDAY INSTEAD. SO AT LEAST  
THAT LINES UP WITH WHAT THE ENSEMBLES HAVE BEEN FAVORING FOR THE  
LAST SEVERAL DAYS. WITH INCREASING CONFIDENCE ON THE TIMING,  
THERE'S STILL QUITE A RANGE OF WIND POSSIBILITIES, BUT MOST  
INDICATIONS ARE IT WILL AT LEAST BE A MODERATE EVENT, AROUND A 60%  
CHANCE WITH WINDS MOSTLY IN THE 30-50 MPH RANGE, WITH ONLY A 20%  
CHANCE OF EITHER A STRONG OR WEAK EVENT. AFTER TUESDAY IT  
APPEARS LIKELY OFFSHORE FLOW WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST  
THURSDAY BUT NOT AS STRONG.  
 
ONE POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS NEXT EVENT IS WITH THE  
HUMIDITIES. THEY HAVE BEEN LOW THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS  
BUT NEXT WEEK THE EC ENSEMBLES ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF AN EVEN  
DRIER PATTERN, WITH PW'S AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH. THIS COULD  
MEAN WIDESPREAD HUMIDITIES OF 10% OR LESS, WITH SOME AREAS EVEN  
BELOW 5%.  
 
WARMING TEMPERATURES EXPECTED FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS HIGH  
PRESSURE STARTS TO BUILD IN FROM THE WEST. MAY STILL BE DEALING  
WITH AT LEAST MODERATE OFFSHORE WINDS THURSDAY/FRIDAY AS THE  
ECMWF SHOWS A SECONDARY, BUT SLIGHTLY WEAKER PEAK IN OFFSHORE  
FLOW.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
16/1754Z.  
 
AT 17Z AT KLAX, THERE WAS A WEAK MARINE INVERSION ABOUT 1000 FT  
DEEP. THE TOP OF THE INVERSION WAS AT 1500 FT WITH A TEMP OF 14  
DEG C.  
 
CLEAR SKIES WITH VFR CONDS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE REGION THRU  
THIS EVENING. LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ARE EXPECTED (60% CHANCE) FOR  
MANY COASTAL SECTIONS LATER TONIGHT WITH IFR CONDS EXPECTED. A  
BRIEF PERIOD OF VLIFR CONDS SHOULD AFFECT KPRB (50%-60% CHANCE)  
BETWEEN ABOUT 13Z AND 17Z FRI. CONDS SHOULD IMPROVE TO MVFR AT  
VTU/L.A. COUNTY COAST AND VLY AIRFIELDS AFT ABOUT 13Z-14Z FRI.  
TIMING OF CHANGES IN FLIGHT CATS MAY BE OFF AN HOUR OR TWO.  
 
KLAX...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN VFR CONDS THRU 08Z, THEN LOW CONFIDENCE  
DUE TO AN INCREASING CHANCE OF STRATUS. THERE IS A 20% CHANCE  
THAT LOW CLOUDS WILL ARRIVE AS EARLY AS 04Z. THERE IS A 20% CHANCE  
THAT ONSET OF CIGS WILL BE MVFR AS OPPOSED TO THE FORECAST IFR  
CONDS. GOOD CONFIDENCE THAT EAST WIND COMPONENT WILL BE UNDER 8  
KT.  
 
KBUR...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN VFR CONDS THRU 08Z, THEN LOW CONFIDENCE  
DUE TO AN INCREASING CHANCE OF STRATUS. THERE IS A 20% CHANCE  
THAT LOW CLOUDS WILL ARRIVE AS EARLY AS 06Z. THERE IS A 20% CHANCE  
THAT ONSET OF CIGS WILL BE MVFR AS OPPOSED TO THE FORECAST IFR  
CONDS.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
16/138 PM.  
 
IN THE OUTER WATERS, THERE IS A 30% CHANCE OF SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY (SCA) LEVEL WINDS FROM PT. CONCEPTION TO SAN NICOLAS  
ISLAND FRI AFTERNOON THRU SAT, AND AGAIN SUN NIGHT/MON. THERE IS  
ALSO A 30% CHANCE OF SCA WIND GUSTS OUT OF THE NE FOR MON NIGHT  
AND TUE MORNING FOR THE SOUTHERN OUTER WATERS (PZZ676).  
OTHERWISE, SUB-ADVISORY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH TUE  
NIGHT.  
 
FOR THE INNER WATERS NORTH OF PT SAL, SUB-ADVISORY CONDS ARE  
EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 
IN THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, THERE IS A 20%-30% CHANCE OF SCA  
LEVEL W WINDS OVER WESTERN PORTIONS FRI AFTERNOON AND EVENING.  
THERE IS ALSO A 30%-40% CHANCE OF SCA EASTERLY WIND GUSTS OVER  
EASTERN PORTIONS MON NIGHT AND TUESDAY. OTHERWISE, FAIRLY BENIGN  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 
IN THE SOUTHERN INNER WATERS, EXCEPT FOR A 30%-40% CHANCE OF  
SCA LEVEL NE WINDS MON NIGHT AND TUE MAINLY NEARSHORE FROM MALIBU  
TO SANTA MONICA, SCA CONDS ARE NOT EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 
 
   
LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CA...FROST ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM PST  
FRIDAY FOR ZONES 340-341-358-372-374. (SEE LAXNPWLOX).  
FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM PST  
FRIDAY FOR ZONES 343-344-346>348-357-371-381>383. (SEE LAXNPWLOX).  
RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PST THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
ZONES 375-378-379. (SEE LAXRFWLOX).  
PZ...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
PUBLIC...MW  
AVIATION...SIRARD  
MARINE...SIRARD  
SYNOPSIS...MW  
 
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