687  
FXUS66 KLOX 170603  
AFDLOX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA  
1003 PM PST THU JAN 16 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
16/809 PM.  
 
COOLER TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS ONSHORE  
FLOW RETURNS. MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS  
COAST AND VALLEY AREAS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY MORNINGS. ANOTHER SANTA  
ANA WIND EVENT WILL BE POSSIBLE LATER MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. MUCH  
BELOW NORMAL DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE  
THROUGH THIS WEEK AND MOST OF NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM (THU-SUN)
 
16/953 PM.  
 
***UPDATE***  
 
TEMPERATURES TRENDED COOLER TODAY WITH WEAKENING OFFSHORE WINDS,  
AND WESTERLY WINDS RETURNING IN THE LATE AFTERNOON. HIGHS STILL  
TRENDED 4-7 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL FOR INTERIOR VENTURA COUNTY AND  
NORTH INTO SANTA BARBARA AND SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTIES WITH  
TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S TO LOW 70S. TONIGHT, CONFIDENCE IS ON THE  
LOWER SIDE, AS GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE RETURN OF MARINE LAYER CLOUDS  
TO COASTS AND VALLEYS. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY ONLY SHOWS A FEW  
AREAS (SOUTH OF ORANGE COUNTY AND OFF THE SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY  
COAST) WHERE LOW CLOUDS ARE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP. THIS MAY BE DUE  
TO THE LACK OF AN INVERSION, BUT BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD  
HELP TO DEVELOP ONE OVERNIGHT. WITH THE CLEAR SKIES, LINGERING  
DRY AIR AND LIGHT WINDS, TEMPERATURES WILL BE CHILLY TONIGHT.  
CURRENT FROST AND FREEZE PRODUCTS LOOK ON TRACK. TEMPERATURES  
COULD TREND 5-7 DEGREES COLDER IN AREAS THAT FAIL TO SEE MARINE  
LAYER CLOUDS. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND, WITH NIGHT TO MORNING MARINE LAYER CLOUDS EXPECTED TO  
AFFECT THE COASTS TO THE VALLEYS. WILL LIKELY NEED FROST AND  
FREEZE PRODUCTS FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AS WELL, AS OVERNIGHT LOW  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD STILL BE QUITE COLD.  
 
***FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION***  
 
WINDS HAVE MORE OR LESS RETURNED TO NORMAL WITH ONSHORE BREEZES  
NOW WELL INTO THE INTERIOR. HUMIDITIES HAVE BEEN SLOWER TO RECOVER  
AND ARE STILL MOSTLY BELOW 30 PERCENT EXCEPT RIGHT AT THE  
IMMEDIATE COAST. TEMPERATURES TODAY WERE 4-8 DEGREES COOLER  
ACROSS COAST BUT NOT SO MUCH INLAND.  
 
TONIGHT MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW INCREASING ONSHORE FLOW AND THE  
EVENTUAL RETURN OF MARINE LAYER STRATUS. CONFIDENCE IN THIS PART  
OF THE FORECAST IS DEFINITELY ON THE LOWER SIDE GIVEN THE  
HUNDREDS OF MILES OF MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TO OUR WEST AND STILL VERY  
LOW HUMIDITIES OVER THE MAINLAND. THE HREF INCREASED CHANCES OF  
STRATUS DEVELOPMENT FROM 50 TO ALMOST 70 PERCENT TONIGHT AND  
FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE A RAPIDLY DEEPENING MARINE INVERSION  
FROM BASICALLY THE SURFACE TO 3000 FEET SATURDAY MORNING. SO WILL  
STICK WITH LOW CLOUDS AND FOG DEVELOPING AT LEAST BY EARLY  
SATURDAY AND SPREADING INTO THE COASTAL VALLEYS. WOULD NOT BE ALL  
THAT SURPRISED IF THIS DID NOT PAN OUT BUT CHANCES ARE HIGHER THAT  
IT WILL.  
 
THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARINE LAYER HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON  
THE OVERNIGHT NIGHT LOWS. IT'S BEEN QUITE COLD AT NIGHT LATELY IN  
WIND PROTECTED AREAS AND BUT THE SWITCH TO ONSHORE FLOW AND THE  
LIKELY FORMATION OF A LOW CLOUD DECK COULD LEAD TO MUCH WARMER  
OVERNIGHT LOWS, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE CLOUDS DEVELOP. GIVEN THAT  
CLOUDS SHOULD FORM FAIRLY LATE AT NIGHT, WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED  
ANOTHER ROUND OF FREEZE/FROST HAZARDS, BUT THIS MAY NOT PAN OUT IN  
SOME OR EVEN MOST AREAS. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF A DEEP STRATUS  
DEVELOPS AS THE HIGH RES MODELS ARE INDICATING, THERE IS ALSO A  
CHANCE OF SOME MORNING DRIZZLE, ESPECIALLY IN UPSLOPE AREAS.  
 
A SIMILAR SCENARIO IS POSSIBLE SATURDAY MORNING, HOWEVER MODELS  
CONTINUE TO INDICATE A 5.1MB OFFSHORE TREND SO IT'S UNCERTAIN HOW  
THIS WILL IMPACT THE STRATUS FORMATION. OVERALL, TEMPERATURES  
EXPECTED TO BE QUITE COOL OVER THE WEEKEND WITH HIGHS TOPPING OUT  
AROUND 60 FOR COAST AND VALLEYS.  
   
LONG TERM (MON-THU)
 
16/233 PM.  
 
THE ECMWF ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO FAVOR LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY FOR  
THE RETURN OF OFFSHORE WINDS FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF A VERY LARGE  
AND VERY COLD LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT WILL BRING MUCH COLDER THAN  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES TO MOST OF THE US NEXT WEEK. DETERMINISTIC  
SOLUTIONS ARE STILL BOUNCING AROUND QUITE A BIT, WITH THE 00Z  
ECMWF LAST NIGHT PREDICTING A -9.7 LAX/DAG GRADIENT NEXT THURSDAY,  
ONLY TO SHIFT GEARS AND MOVE THAT TUESDAY INSTEAD. SO AT LEAST  
THAT LINES UP WITH WHAT THE ENSEMBLES HAVE BEEN FAVORING FOR THE  
LAST SEVERAL DAYS. WITH INCREASING CONFIDENCE ON THE TIMING,  
THERE'S STILL QUITE A RANGE OF WIND POSSIBILITIES, BUT MOST  
INDICATIONS ARE IT WILL AT LEAST BE A MODERATE EVENT, AROUND A 60%  
CHANCE WITH WINDS MOSTLY IN THE 30-50 MPH RANGE, WITH ONLY A 20%  
CHANCE OF EITHER A STRONG OR WEAK EVENT. AFTER TUESDAY IT  
APPEARS LIKELY OFFSHORE FLOW WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST  
THURSDAY BUT NOT AS STRONG.  
 
ONE POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS NEXT EVENT IS WITH THE  
HUMIDITIES. THEY HAVE BEEN LOW THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS  
BUT NEXT WEEK THE EC ENSEMBLES ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF AN EVEN  
DRIER PATTERN, WITH PW'S AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH. THIS COULD  
MEAN WIDESPREAD HUMIDITIES OF 10% OR LESS, WITH SOME AREAS EVEN  
BELOW 5%.  
 
WARMING TEMPERATURES EXPECTED FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS HIGH  
PRESSURE STARTS TO BUILD IN FROM THE WEST. MAY STILL BE DEALING  
WITH AT LEAST MODERATE OFFSHORE WINDS THURSDAY/FRIDAY AS THE  
ECMWF SHOWS A SECONDARY, BUT SLIGHTLY WEAKER PEAK IN OFFSHORE  
FLOW.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
17/0602Z.  
 
AT 05Z AT KLAX, THERE WAS NO MARINE LAYER NOR AN INVERSION.  
 
OVERALL, LOW TO MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN 06Z TAF PACKAGE. LOWEST  
CONFIDENCE FOR LOW CLOUDS/FOG DEVELOPMENT, WITH BEST CHANCES FOR  
LA COASTAL AREAS. THERE IS A 30% CHANCE FOR SUB-VFR CONDS FOR KPRB  
FROM 12Z TO 18Z. THERE IS A 30% CHANCE FOR IFR CONDS AT KSMO FROM  
12Z TO 18Z. TIMING OF FLIGHT CIG/VSBY RESTRICTIONS MAY BE OFF +/-  
2 HOURS AND FLIGHT CAT COULD BE OFF ONE OR TWO.  
 
KLAX...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN VFR CONDS THRU 08Z, THEN LOW CONFIDENCE  
DUE TO AN INCREASING CHANCE OF STRATUS. THERE IS A 30% CHANCE THAT  
CIGS NEVER FALL BELOW BKN/OVC010. GOOD CONFIDENCE THAT EAST WIND  
COMPONENT WILL STAY UNDER 8 KT.  
 
KBUR...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN VFR CONDS THRU 08Z, THEN LOW CONFIDENCE  
DUE TO AN INCREASING CHANCE OF STRATUS. THERE IS A 30% CHANCE  
OF CIGS FALLING BELOW BKN/OVC010 (IFR CONDS) FROM 10Z TO 18Z.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
16/833 PM.  
 
IN THE OUTER WATERS, THERE IS A 30% CHANCE OF SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY (SCA) LEVEL WINDS FROM PT. CONCEPTION TO SAN NICOLAS  
ISLAND FRI AFTERNOON THRU FRI NIGHT, AND AGAIN SUN NIGHT/MON.  
THERE IS ALSO A 30% CHANCE OF SCA WIND GUSTS OUT OF THE NE FOR MON  
NIGHT AND TUE MORNING FOR THE SOUTHERN OUTER WATERS (PZZ676).  
OTHERWISE, SUB-ADVISORY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH TUE NIGHT.  
 
FOR THE INNER WATERS NORTH OF PT SAL, SUB-ADVISORY CONDS ARE  
EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 
IN THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, THERE IS A 20%-30% CHANCE OF SCA  
LEVEL W WINDS OVER WESTERN PORTIONS FRI AFTERNOON AND EVENING.  
THERE IS ALSO A 30%-40% CHANCE OF SCA EASTERLY WIND GUSTS OVER  
EASTERN PORTIONS MON NIGHT AND TUESDAY. OTHERWISE, FAIRLY BENIGN  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 
IN THE SOUTHERN INNER WATERS, EXCEPT FOR A 30%-40% CHANCE OF  
SCA LEVEL NE WINDS MON NIGHT AND TUE MAINLY NEARSHORE FROM MALIBU  
TO SANTA MONICA, SCA CONDS ARE NOT EXPECTED THRU TUE NIGHT.  
 

 
   
LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CA...FROST ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM PST FRIDAY FOR ZONES  
340-341-358-372-374. (SEE LAXNPWLOX).  
FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM PST FRIDAY FOR ZONES  
343-344-346>348-357-371-381>383. (SEE LAXNPWLOX).  
PZ...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
PUBLIC...PHILLIPS/MW  
AVIATION...BLACK  
MARINE...SIRARD/SMITH  
SYNOPSIS...MW/SMITH  
 
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