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FXUS66 KLOX 100554  
AFDLOX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA  
954 PM PST SUN NOV 9 2025  
 
UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION  
   
SYNOPSIS  
09/521 PM.  
 
MONDAY WILL AGAIN BE VERY WARM AND DRY, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE LOS  
ANGELES AND VENTURA COUNTY VALLEYS. A COOLING TREND WILL START  
TUESDAY, AHEAD OF THE INCOMING STORM SYSTEM. RAIN MAY START AS  
EARLY AS WEDNESDAY NIGHT, HOWEVER THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL AND  
GREATEST IMPACTS ARE LIKELY TO OCCUR THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (SUN-WED)  
09/758 PM.  
 
***UPDATE***  
 
A VERY SHALLOW MARINE INVERSION IS CREATING AREAS OF FOG ALONG  
MUCH OF THE COAST THIS EVENING, WITH SOME DENSE FOG NOTED ALONG  
PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL COAST. A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL LIKELY BE  
NEEDED AT SOME POINT DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS, IF THE DENSE FOG  
BECOMES MORE WIDESPREAD. MODELS, INCLUDING THE HREF, INDICATE THAT  
THE SHALLOW INVERSION COULD RESULT IN WIDESPREAD FOG, ESPECIALLY  
FOR THE CENTRAL COAST AND SANTA BARBARA SOUTH COAST.  
 
HIGH TEMPERATURES WERE NOTED ACROSS THE VALLEYS TODAY WITH MANY  
READINGS IN THE MID 80S TO LOWER 90S. AS MODELS INDICATE OFFSHORE  
GRADIENTS INCREASING SOME OVERNIGHT, TO -3.5 MB BETWEEN LAX TO  
DAGGETT, EXPECT WINDS MAY BE SLIGHTLY STRONGER THAN TODAY BUT  
STILL SUB-ADVISORY LEVEL. WHILE INCREASING OFFSHORE FLOW FAVORS  
RISING TEMPERATURES, THE NAM12 INDICATED THE 950 MB TEMPS  
REMAINING SIMILAR IN SOME AREAS, OR DECREASING SLIGHTLY. DEPENDING  
ON HOW THE MARINE INVERSION HOLDS UP, TEMPERATURES COULD WARM AT  
THE COAST.  
 
***FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION***  
 
UPPER LEVEL WIND SUPPORT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH WITH THIS SANTA ANA  
EVENT TO PUSH WIND AND HOT TEMPS TO THE COAST TODAY. WINDS  
HAVEN'T BEEN OVERLY IMPRESSIVE WITH THIS EVENT EITHER WITH JUST A  
HANDFUL OF SITES OVER 25 MPH. MODELS ARE STILL INDICATING A SLIGHT  
INCREASE IN OFFSHORE FLOW MONDAY BUT STILL WITH VERY MINIMAL  
UPPER SUPPORT SO FOR THE MOST PART A VERY SIMILAR DAY AS TODAY  
EXCEPT LIKELY A FEW DEGREES WARMER.  
 
A SIGNIFICANT COOLING TREND WILL BEGIN TUESDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE  
WEAKENS AHEAD OF THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE ARRIVAL. GRADIENTS WILL  
QUICKLY TURN ONSHORE AND MOST AREAS WILL DROP 5-10 DEGREES BOTH  
TUESDAY AND AGAIN WEDNESDAY. A DEEPENING MARINE LAYER WILL PUSH  
LOW CLOUDS INTO THE VALLEYS BY WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH HIGHS BACK  
DOWN INTO THE 70S.  
   
LONG TERM (THU-SUN)  
09/1248 PM.  
 
STARTING TO GET SOME IMPROVED CONSENSUS IN THE MODELS REGARDING  
THE STORM LATER IN THE WEEK. TIMING-WISE MODELS ARE ZONING IN ON  
THURSDAY BEING THE PRIMARY PERIOD FOR RAIN ACROSS THE AREA, BUT  
WITH SOME EARLY SHOWERS ARRIVING WEDNESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE  
CENTRAL COAST.  
 
MODELS ARE ALSO COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT ON THE AMOUNTS AS  
WELL WITH A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS SHOWING A  
HEAVY, BUT RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF RAIN AS THE MAIN FRONT MOVES  
THROUGH. OROGRAPHICS WILL PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLL IN THE AMOUNTS  
WITH UPSLOPE AREAS GETTING TWICE TO 3 TIMES THE AMOUNTS AT SEA  
LEVEL. OVERALL, STICKING WITH THE 1-2/2-4 INCH RANGE (COAST AND  
VALLEYS/MOUNTAINS), WITH MUCH OF THAT FALLING IN 5-10 HOUR PERIOD,  
AND HOURLY AMOUNTS BETWEEN A QUARTER AND HALF INCH, AND AS MUCH  
AS 0.75 IN THE UPSLOPE AREAS.  
 
SNOW LEVELS WILL LIKELY REMAIN AT OR ABOVE 8000' FOR MOST OF THE  
STORM, THEN DROP TO AROUND 6000 FEET AS THE LAST OF THE PRECIP IS  
MOVING THROUGH LATER THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. AT THIS  
POINT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW ON THE  
GRAPEVINE, BUT SOME LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS (2-4") ARE POSSIBLE DOWN  
TO AROUND 6000'.  
 
DRY AND COOL WEATHER EXPECTED NEXT WEEKEND WITH HIGHS MOSTLY IN  
THE UPPER 60S TO LOW 70S.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
10/0553Z.  
 
AT 0537Z AT KLAX, THE MARINE LAYER WAS 600 FEET DEEP. THE TOP OF  
THE INVERSION WAS NEAR 1800 FEET WITH A TEMPERATURE OF 28 DEGREES  
CELSIUS.  
 
HIGH CONFIDENCE IN VFR TAFS FOR KPMD AND KWJF.  
 
MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN VFR TAFS FOR KPRB, KBUR, AND KWJF. THERE IS  
A 10% CHANCE FOR VLIFR-LIFR CONDS AT EACH SIGHT FROM 10Z-17Z.  
 
VERY LOW CONFIDENCE IN REMAINING COASTAL TAFS. LOW CLOUDS ARE  
PULLING OUT OF SOME COASTAL AREAS, BUT EXPECTING THEM TO PUSH BACK  
IN SOON. ARRIVAL TIMES FOR SITES WITHOUT CIGS MAY BE ANY TIME THIS  
MORNING. LESS THAN 1/2SM VSBYS AND CIGS LESS THAN VV002 ARE  
POSSIBLE (50% CHANCE) AT ALL COASTAL SITES ANY TIME WHEN CIGS ARE  
PRESENT THROUGH AT LEAST 17Z. TIMING OF BURN OFF MAY BE OFF +/- 3  
HOURS. LOW CONFIDENCE ON ANY RETURN OF LOW CLOUDS AFTER 12/00Z.  
 
KLAX...LOW CONFIDENCE IN TAF. 50% CHANCE FOR 1/2SM OR LOWER VSBYS  
WITH VV002 OR LOWER CIGS ANY TIME CIGS ARE PRESENT THROUGH 17Z.  
CLEARING TIME MAY BE ANY TIME BETWEEN 15Z AND 20Z. 20% CHANCE FOR  
OVC002-OVC006 CIGS TO RETURN AFTER 12/07Z. NO SIGNIFICANT EAST  
WIND COMPONENT EXPECTED.  
 
KBUR...MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN TAF. 10% CHANCE FOR VV001-VV002 CIGS  
AND VSBYS LESS THAN 1/2SM FROM 10Z-17Z.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
09/732 PM.  
 
FOR THE OUTER WATERS AND THE INNER WATERS NORTH OF POINT SAL,  
MODERATE TO HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CURRENT FORECAST. THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY, HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WINDS AND SEAS REMAINING BELOW SMALL  
CRAFT ADVISORY (SCA) LEVELS. FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, HIGH  
CONFIDENCE IN A COMBINATION OF SCA LEVEL WINDS AND SEAS.  
ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A 30% CHANCE OF GALE FORCE THURSDAY NIGHT  
ACROSS PZZ676.  
 
FOR THE INNER WATERS SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION, MODERATE TO HIGH  
CONFIDENCE IN CURRENT FORECAST. THROUGH WEDNESDAY, HIGH  
CONFIDENCE IN WINDS AND SEAS REMAINING BELOW SCA LEVELS. ON  
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, THERE IS A 60-80% CHANCE OF SCA LEVEL WINDS  
WITH A 30-40% CHANCE OF GALE FORCE WINDS.  
 
 
   
LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CA...NONE.  
PZ...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
PUBLIC...MW/CC  
AVIATION...LEWIS  
MARINE...RAT/SCHOENFELD  
SYNOPSIS...SCHOENFELD  
 
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