240  
FXUS63 KMKX 162125  
AFDMKX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MILWAUKEE/SULLIVAN WI  
325 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
 
- AREAS OF RAIN WITH A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER WILL BE POSSIBLE  
OVERNIGHT  
 
- PERIODS OF PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE FROM LATE MONDAY  
AFTERNOON THROUGH THURSDAY. A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW IS POSSIBLE  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT AS A COLDER AIR MASS WORKS IN.  
 
- WINDS WILL REMAIN ELEVATED OVER LAKE MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON  
AND INTO THE MID WEEK. SMALL CRAFT ADIVSORY CONDITIONS ARE  
LIKELY THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TOMORROW AFTERNOON, AND MAY  
RETURN AGAIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM
 
 
ISSUED 302 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT:  
 
BREEZY CONDITIONS WITH A FEW BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE  
TONIGHT AS WARM ADVECTION WILL MOVE OVER THE REGION AHEAD OF AN  
APPROACHING COLD FRONT. 850MB WAA WILL SPUR ON SCATTERED AREAS  
OF SHOWERS TONIGHT, PRIMARILY NORTHWEST OF US HWY 151. MODELS  
DEPICT ELEVATED CAPE RANGING FROM 250 TO 500 J/KG, SO A FEW  
RUMBLES OF THUNDER CAN'T BE RULED OUT. THIS ACTIVITY WILL  
QUICKLY RACE NORTHEAST AND A FEW SCATTERED LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS  
MAY LINGER IN THE REMAINING WEAK FORCE/MOISTURE INTO SUNDAY  
MORNING AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. FOLLOWING THE COLD FRONTAL  
PASSAGE LATE SUNDAY MORNING, WEST WINDS SHOULD REMAIN ELEVATED  
THROUGH THE DAY, AND SKIES WILL GRADUALLY CLEAR FROM NORTHWEST  
TO SOUTHEAST DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON. THERE MAY BE A FEW  
SPRINKLES IN FAR SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN FOLLOWING THE FRONTAL  
PASSAGE AS 700MB FGEN MAY CAUSE ENOUGH LIFT TO CREATE SATURATION  
ALOFT.  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING SHOULD REMAIN DRY AS A SMALL  
AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN ON THE HEELS OF THE COLD FRONT.  
 
A STRONG PANHANDLE HOOK LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE  
INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO  
TUESDAY MORNING. THIS SYSTEM WILL FEATURE FAIRLY GOOD DYNAMICS  
SPURRED ON BY A NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH, LEFT EXIT JET DYNAMICS  
FROM A 300MB JET ALOFT ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE TROUGH ALOFT,  
AND STRONG WAA SUPPORT FROM A 50 TO 60 KT 850MB JET. THE BEST  
QPF TOTALS LOOK TO BE THE BEST PRIMARILY FROM MADISON,  
WESTWARD, WHERE A 1.25 TO 1.5 INCHES MAY FALL FROM LATE MONDAY  
AFTERNOON INTO TUESDAY MORNING. LESSER AMOUNTS BETWEEN 0.5 TO 1  
INCH MAY FALL EAST OF MADISON AS AREAS CLOSER TO LAKE MICHIGAN  
WILL BE FURTHER REMOVED FROM THE BETTER DYNAMICS.  
 
CMILLER  
 

 
   
LONG TERM
 
 
ISSUED 240 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY:  
 
KICKING OFF THE LONG TERM DISCUSSION WITH A PATTERN SHIFT IN  
TEMPERATURES. BEHIND THE PASSAGE OF THE COLD FRONT TUESDAY, COLD  
AIR ADVECTION WILL KICK IN AND ITS EXPECTED TO STICK AROUND  
THROUGH THE REST OF THE EXTENDED. TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY  
WILL SIGNIFY THE CHANGE HERE WITH LOW TEMPERATURES FALLING INTO  
THE 30S. SUBSEQUENT HIGH TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE REST WEEK LOOK  
TO TOP OUT IN THE 40S. WHICH MAY FEEL LIKE A DRASTIC CHANGE FOR  
SOME WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S TO EVEN LOW 60S THE DAY  
PRIOR (TUESDAY). CONFIDENCE ON THIS TEMPERATURES SHIFT TOWARD  
NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR IS FAIRLY HIGH WITH GOOD MODEL  
AGREEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD. WHILE THE EXACT TEMPERATURES COULD  
STILL FLUCTUATE A BIT IN THE COMING DAYS. COOLER WEATHER IS AHEAD.  
 
NOW FOR THE MORE UNCERTAIN PART OF THE FORECAST. PHASING ISSUES  
AGAIN MAKE IT TO THE FOREFRONT OF THE FORECAST IN THE BEST WILL  
THEY, WONT THEY FOR THOSE WISHING FOR SNOW. AS THE UPPER LEVEL LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM FROM TUESDAY BEGINS TO ADVECT NORTHEAST OUT OF  
THE GREAT LAKES REGION, A SECOND UPPER LEVEL LOW COMES BARRELING  
OUT OF THE ALBERTA/SASKATCHEWAN AREA. GUIDANCE IS FAIRLY CONFIDENT  
THAT THESE TWO SYSTEMS WILL PHASE TOGETHER. THE REAL QUESTION  
COMES DOWN TO THE WHERE, WHEN AND HOW STRONG. WPC CLUSTER ANALYSIS  
FOR DAYS 3-6 HAS THE LARGEST OF THE SPREAD/VARIANCE WITH THE  
PHASED TROUGH. SHOWING A DIPOLE STRUCTURE FOR THE PHASED TROUGH IN  
THE GREAT LAKES REGION DURING THIS TIME. WITH THE SECOND LARGEST  
SPREAD BEING MORE MONOPOLE WITH THE RIDGING TO OUR WEST. THIS  
HIGHLIGHTS WELL THE UNCERTAINTY PRESENT WITH HOW THESE TWO  
SYSTEMS WILL PHASE TOGETHER AS DIPOLE STRUCTURES IN THE 500MB  
CLUSTER ANALYSIS INDICATE POSITION AND TIMING UNCERTAINTY.  
LOOKING LOWER IN THE ATMOSPHERE YOU CAN SEE THIS IN ACTION WITH  
THE DETERMINISTIC RUNS OF THE EURO AND GFS. THE GFS POTENTIALLY  
OVER STRENGTHENS THE LOW AND PUSHES IT MUCH FURTHER EAST INTO  
ONTARIO/WESTERN NEW YORK. WHICH LEAVES WISCONSIN ON THE WESTERN  
EDGE OF THE LOW. THE EURO ON THE OTHER HAND IS FURTHER WEST AND  
MUCH WEAKER IN COMPARISON WITH THE SURFACE LOW RETROGRADING SOME  
WHERE OVER MICHIGAN.  
 
NOW WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN FOR US LIVING IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN.  
INTERMITTENT CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING  
THROUGH FRIDAY WITH THE HIGHEST CHANCES ALONG LAKE MICHIGAN. LAKE  
SHORE COUNTIES WILL HAVE THE BEST CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY AS THE SURFACE LOW RETROGRADES A BIT  
WITH 60-70% CHANCES. THIS MAY BE A BIT HIGH IN SOME AREAS, BUT  
WITH THE UNCERTAINTY STUCK TO THE AVERAGE AMONG GUIDANCE. INLAND  
AREAS WILL HAVE MUCH LOWER CHANCES AROUND 20-40%. MILD LAKE  
MICHIGAN TEMPERATURES WILL KEEP CONDITIONS WARM FOR THE LAKE SHORE  
COUNTIES WHICH WILL MAKE ANY SNOWFALL POTENTIAL VERY LOW  
RESULTING IN MOSTLY RAIN. WESTERN INLAND AREAS WILL HAVE THE BEST  
CHANCES FOR OVERNIGHT LOWS TO DROP BELOW FREEZING WHICH IS WHERE  
THE SNOW CHANCES BEGIN TO CREEP INTO THE FORECAST. THIS IS  
ASSUMING THAT THE TROUGH PHASES TOGETHER FURTHER WEST TO GIVE MORE  
OF THE STATE CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION. GIVEN THE NEAR FREEZING  
TEMPERATURES IF ANY SNOW DID MIX IN. IT WOULD NOT BE LIKELY TO  
SICK TO THE GROUND OR LAST LONG. THE ONE SAVING GRACE WITH THIS  
SYSTEM IS BASED ON THE GUIDANCE THUS FAR WISCONSIN IS NOT THE  
STATE THAT IS UNDER THE GUN FOR THE MOST PRECIPITATION. STATES  
SOUTH AND EAST OF US WILL HAVE MORE WIDESPREAD PRECIP. EITHER WAY  
BEST TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE FORECAST AS MORE DETAILS WILL SHAKE  
OUT IN THE COMING DAYS. BEYOND THIS SYSTEM DRY CONDITIONS ARE  
EXPECTED TO RETURN.  
 
PATTERSON  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
ISSUED 252 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
MVFR CEILINGS WITH SCATTERED BREAKS OF VFR WILL CONTINUE INTO  
THIS EVENING. OVERNIGHT AREAS OF RAIN WILL MOVE IN SPURRED ON BY  
WARM ADVECTION AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER  
MAY OCCUR WITH THIS ACTIVITY BUT WIDESPREAD THUNDER MAY REMAIN  
LIMITED. SOUTH TO SOUTH-SOUTHEAST BREEZES WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT  
AS THE WARM ADVECTION MOVES OVER THE REGION. RAIN SHOULD LARGELY  
END BY DAWN ON SUNDAY, SAVE FOR POTENTIAL A FEW SCATTERED LIGHT  
SHOWERS. WINDS WILL COME AROUND TO WESTERLY SUNDAY MORNING, AND  
REMAIN GUSTY THROUGH THE DAY.  
 
CMILLER  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ISSUED 252 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
SOUTH TO SOUTH-SOUTHEAST WINDS WILL STEADILY INCREASE THROUGH THE  
REST OF THE AFTERNOON AS A STRONGER PRESSURE GRADIENT MOVES OVER  
THE LAKE IN A WARM AIR ADVECTION REGIME AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING  
COLD FRONT. GUSTS BETWEEN 25 AND 30 KNOTS WILL BE PREVALENT OVER  
MOST OF THE LAKE WITH GUSTS JUST SHY OF GALE FORCE MORE LIKELY  
OVER THE NORTHERN END OF LAKE MICHIGAN. A FEW GUSTS TO GALE FORCE  
WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM EARLY SUNDAY MORNING INTO SUNDAY AFTERNOON,  
BUT CONFIDENCE ISN'T HIGH IN HOW PREVALENT AND WIDESPREAD GALE  
FORCE GUSTS WILL BE, SO WE'VE HELD OFF ON A GALE WARNING.  
 
BY SUNDAY EVENING, WINDS WILL COME AROUND TO WESTERLY BEHIND A  
WEAK COLD FRONT AND HIGH PRESSURE WILL QUICKLY MOVE IN, EASING  
WINDS BY DAWN ON MONDAY. ANOTHER PERIOD OF GUSTY SOUTHEASTERLY  
APPEAR POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE OF 29.3 INCHES  
APPROACHES THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY.  
 
CMILLER  
 

 
   
MKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
WI...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...LMZ643 UNTIL 3 PM SUNDAY.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...LMZ644-LMZ645-LMZ646 UNTIL 6 AM SUNDAY.  
 

 
 

 
 
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