742  
FXUS63 KMPX 161148  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
548 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WARM BUT BREEZY THIS WEEKEND. SATURDAY HIGHS IN THE 50S WITH  
WIND GUSTS AROUND 35 MPH. SUNDAY HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOW  
50S WITH WIND GUSTS AROUND 20 MPH.  
 
- LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM BRINGING RAIN LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY  
WITH MOST LOCATIONS SEEING AROUND AN INCH OF RAIN.  
 
- COOLING DOWN TO NEAR AVERAGE HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE LATER  
PART OF NEXT WEEK. HIGHS ARE FORECAST TO FALL INTO THE UPPER  
30S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 243 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
AS A RESULT OF WAA OUTPACING MOISTURE ADVECTION, THIS MORNING IS  
NEARLY FOG FREE. A WELCOME SIGHT COMPARED TO YESTERDAY. SKIES  
WILL BE PARTLY TO MOSTLY CLOUDY TODAY BUT TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
WARM WITH HIGHS IN THE 50S. IN FACT, A FEW NEAR 60 VALUES MAY BE  
POSSIBLE ALONG THE BUFFALO RIDGE IN WESTERN MN. WINDS WILL ALSO  
BE STRONG OUT OF THE SOUTH-SOUTHEAST TODAY WITH GUSTS  
APPROACHING 35 MPH. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH FROM WEST TO  
EAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS A SHORTWAVE PASSES TO OUR  
NORTH. THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE SHOULD BE DRY, EXCEPT NEAR EAU AND  
OUR EASTERN WI COUNTIES WHERE JUST ENOUGH SATURATION COULD  
RESULT IN SOME EVENING RAIN SHOWERS. CURRENTLY HAVE 20-30% POPS  
IN THIS REGION FOR THIS EVENING. BUT ASIDE FROM SOME POTENTIAL  
WETTING RAIN IN WESTERN WI, THE REST OF THE CWA WILL REMAIN DRY  
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT. TEMPERATURES COOL SLIGHTLY FOLLOWING THE  
FRONT WITH LOWS IN THE MID 30S TO LOWER 40S TONIGHT AND HIGHS IN  
THE UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S SUNDAY. WINDS WILL ALSO SWITCH TO  
WESTERLY POST- FRONT AND TREND DOWNWARD IN SPEED GOING INTO  
SUNDAY NIGHT. LOWS SUNDAY NIGHT WILL BE EVEN COOLER WITH UPPER  
20S TO MID 30S POSSIBLE.  
 
THE FORECAST BECOMES A LOT MORE INTERESTING AFTER SUNDAY AS RAIN  
LOOKS LIKE A CERTAINTY MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO TUESDAY. A COMPACT,  
BUT NEGATIVELY-TILTED SHORTWAVE ORIGINATING FROM THE BAJA  
PENINSULA WILL MAKE ITS WAY INTO WESTERN TX BY MONDAY MORNING.  
FROM THERE, THE WAVE WILL QUICKLY EJECT NORTH-NORTHEAST,  
SPAWNING A STRONG SURFACE CYCLONE AHEAD OF IT. WITH STRONG  
DYNAMICS AT PLAY AND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF MOISTURE BEING DRAGGED  
NORTHWARD FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO, A LARGE PRECIPITATION SHIELD  
WILL FORM AROUND THE LOW AS IT TRAVELS NORTHWARD FROM THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. RAIN SHOULD ARRIVE IN  
SOUTHERN MN BY LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON, SPREADING NORTHWARD AND  
ENVELOPING THE ENTIRE REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING.  
EVENTUALLY, AS THE SURFACE LOW CONTINUES NORTH, A MID-LEVEL DRY  
SLOT SHOULD WRAP AROUND FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW AND  
DIMINISH PRECIP OVER AT LEAST THE SOUTHERN HALF OF MN AFTER  
TUESDAY MORNING. WITH PWAT VALUES OF 1-1.25" (APPROACHING  
CLIMATOLOGICAL MAXIMUM FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR), A SOLID 1-1.5" OF  
RAIN LOOKS LIKE A GOOD POSSIBILITY FOR A MAJORITY OF THE MPX  
CWA. RAIN COULD ALSO BE QUITE HEAVY AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY MONDAY  
NIGHT WHEN MAXIMUM LIFT AND PROFILE SATURATION WILL OCCUR. SOME  
RUMBLES OF THUNDER ARE ALSO NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION AS FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS SHOW NON- ZERO MUCAPE. WINDS WILL ALSO BE QUITE STRONG  
MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY FROM THE TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT OF  
THE SURFACE LOW. WIND FIELDS WILL BE COUNTER-CLOCKWISE AROUND  
THE LOW SO EXPECT WIND DIRECTIONS TO CHANGE FROM SOUTHEASTERLY  
TO WESTERLY AS THE LOW PASSES.  
 
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MODEL SUITES STILL EXIST WITH HOW THE  
AFOREMENTIONED SURFACE LOW OCCLUDES AND EVENTUALLY INTERACTS  
WITH A SECONDARY TROUGH ORIGINATING FROM THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST. THE ECMWF AND EPS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE LOW TRAVELING  
MORE NORTH AND EVENTUALLY STALLING OVER NORTHERN MN TUESDAY  
EVENING. WITH THE SECOND TROUGH AND ITS GREATER AMOUNTS OF COLD  
AIR IN TOW, THIS SCENARIO WOULD RESULT IN MORE SNOWFALL ACROSS  
ND AND NORTHWEST MN (POTENTIALLY AFFECTING OUR FAR NORTHWEST  
COUNTIES) TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY. MEANWHILE, THE GFS  
AND GEFS (AND TO AN EXTENT THEIR CANADIAN COUNTERPARTS) ARE MORE  
PROGRESSIVE WITH THE SURFACE LOW WEAKENING AND ENDING UP OVER  
THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. THIS WOULD GREATLY DIMINISH THE POTENTIAL  
FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW OVER ND AND NORTHWEST MN (INCLUDING OUR  
NORTHWEST COUNTIES). GUIDANCE DOES MOSTLY AGREE ON A SECONDARY  
CYCLONE FORMING OVER THE MIDWEST/LOWER GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY  
NIGHT INTO THURSDAY WITH THE CYCLONE TRAVELING INTO THE  
NORTHEASTERN SEABOARD BY FRIDAY. THUS, MODEL TRENDS ARE HINTING  
AT A MORE PROGRESSIVE SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN OUR AREA  
BEING MORE LIKELY TO SEE PERIODS OF COSMETIC TO LIGHT SNOW  
BEFORE THE SYSTEM MOVES TOO FAR EAST. AFTERWARDS, IT APPEARS WE  
COOL DOWN TO BELOW NORMAL INTO NEXT WEEKEND AS A NORTHWESTERLY  
FLOW PATTERN SETS UP. THIS PATTERN MAY BE SHORT-LIVED, THOUGH,  
AS FORECAST MODELS DO HINT AT BUILDING ANOTHER RIDGE NEAR THE  
CENTRAL CONUS TWO SUNDAYS FROM NOW. BUT MODEL PREDICTABILITY IS  
OBVIOUSLY LOW AT SUCH A FAR TIME IN ADVANCE.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 532 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
VFR TO START FOR ALL TAF SITES WITH PASSING HIGH CLOUDS,  
EVENTUALLY DEVELOPING HIGH CEILINGS BY LATE MORNING. AS A  
FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHES THIS AFTERNOON AND CROSSES MN/WI  
TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING, LOWER CLOUDS WILL MOVE INTO THE  
AREA, PARTICULARLY OVER EASTERN MN INTO WESTERN WI, WHERE VFR  
AND MVFR CEILINGS ARE LIKELY. DURATION WILL NOT BE LONG,  
GENERALLY FROM NEAR DUSK THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS WITH  
VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED BY DAYBREAK SUNDAY. A FEW SCATTERED RAIN  
SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE IN WESTERN WI THIS EVENING, MAINLY NEAR  
AND EAST OF THE EAU AREA. THE MAIN ISSUE LOOKS TO BE STRONG  
SOUTHEAST TO SOUTH WINDS TODAY. SPEEDS WILL INCREASE TO  
AROUND 20G35KTS FOR MOST TAF SITES, PARTICULARLY LATE MORNING  
THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON.  
 
KMSP...VFR AND BREEZY/GUSTY THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH HIGH  
CEILINGS. WINDS WILL DIMINISH AND VEER THIS EVENING THROUGH  
SUNDAY MORNING, WITH MID-LEVEL CEILINGS DEVELOPING NEAR OR JUST  
AFTER SUNSET. CEILINGS WILL CONTINUE TO DROP AS THE FRONTAL  
SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS THE AREA, RESULTING IN MVFR CEILINGS  
OVERNIGHT, FOLLOWED BY VFR CONDITIONS BY SUNRISE SUNDAY MORNING.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
MON...VFR. WIND SE 10-15KTS.  
TUE...MVFR/RA. IFR LIKELY. WIND E 10-15KTS BCMG NW 15-20G25-30  
KTS.  
WED...MVFR. CHANCE -SHRA/IFR. WIND NW 15G25-30KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...CTG  
AVIATION...JPC  
 
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