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FXUS63 KMPX 162038  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
238 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- MILD AND WINDY WEATHER CONTINUES THIS AFTERNOON, WITH SLIGHTLY  
COOLER BUT STILL BREEZY CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY.  
 
- WIDESPREAD SOAKING RAINFALL MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. AN INCH OR  
SO OF RAIN LOOKS LIKELY AT MOST LOCATIONS.  
 
- COOLER AIR ARRIVES FOR THE SECOND HALF OF NEXT WEEK, WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 230 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
EARLY AFTERNOON SURFACE ANALYSIS CAPTURES ~998MB LOW PRESSURE  
LOCATED IN SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA. THE ANALYZED TIGHT PRESSURE  
GRADIENT EAST OF THE SURFACE LOW HAS PRODUCED STRONG SOUTHEASTERLY  
WINDS ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN. THE  
COMBINATION OF WARM AIR ADVECTION AND EFFICIENT MIXING HAS ALLOWED  
FOR TEMPERATURES TO WARM INTO THE 50S ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTH CENTRAL  
MINNESOTA. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVER THE  
COMING HOURS, TIED TO THE NORTHEASTWARD MOVEMENT OF THE SURFACE  
LOW. NOT MUCH CHANGE THE EXPECTED DRY PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, WITH  
THE ONLY MENTION OF 20-30% POPS ACROSS THE EASTERNMOST COUNTIES  
IN WESTERN WISCONSIN. STEEP LAPSE RATES AND BETTER SATURATION  
WITHIN THE COLUMN MAY PROMOTE SCATTERED SHOWERS LATER THIS  
EVENING. THE GUSTY SOUTH/SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS ARE FORECAST TO  
TURN WESTERLY BEHIND THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. SLIGHTLY COOLER, BUT  
STILL ABOVE AVERAGE HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S/LOW 50S ARE ON DECK  
FOR SUNDAY, WITH GUSTS AROUND 20-25 MPH POSSIBLE. WINDS WILL  
DIMINISH BY TOMORROW EVENING, WITH CLEAR AND QUIET WEATHER TO  
CLOSE THE WEEKEND.  
 
THE FORECAST TAKES A MUCH WETTER TURN TO OPEN THE WORK WEEK. A  
NEGATIVELY-TILTED SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS PROGGED TO KICK NORTHEAST FROM  
THE DESERT SOUTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS BY MIDDAY MONDAY.  
STRONG ASCENT EAST OF THE SHORTWAVE WILL SPAWN A SURFACE LOW ACROSS  
CENTRAL TEXAS MONDAY MORNING, WITH A TRAJECTORY TOWARDS THE UPPER  
MIDWEST. A PROLONGED FETCH OF GULF MOISTURE WILL YIELD A NEARLY 5  
SIGMA PWAT ANOMALY INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BY MONDAY EVENING. IN  
FACT, THE EXPECTED 1-1.25" PWATS WILL BE NEAR THE  
CLIMATOLOGICAL MAXIMUM, POTENTIALLY SETTING A NEW RECORD PER MPX  
SOUNDING CLIMATOLOGY. MOISTURE RETURN WILL WORK IN TANDEM WITH  
BROAD ISENTROPIC ASCENT TO PRODUCE AN EXPANSIVE SHIELD OF  
RAINFALL NORTH OF THE SURFACE LOW, WHICH IS SET TO ARRIVE IN  
SOUTHERN MINNESOTA BY MONDAY AFTERNOON. HIGH CONFIDENCE A  
PROLONGED PERIOD OF RAINFALL IS REFLECTED BY 90-100% POPS ACROSS  
THE ENTIRE AREA MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE LATEST  
QPF EXPECTATIONS BETWEEN 1-1.5" FOR THE MAJORITY OF COMMUNITIES  
REMAINS LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. RAIN WILL  
END FROM SOUTH TO NORTH TUESDAY MORNING, AS THE SYSTEMS DRY SLOT  
WRAPS IN. EASTERLY WINDS WILL BE THE STRONGEST ACROSS EASTERN  
MN/WESTERN WI INITIALLY, FOLLOWED BY AN INCREASE IN  
NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ACROSS WESTERN MN ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE  
SURFACE LOW TUESDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
THE EVOLUTION OF THE FORECAST BEYOND TUESDAY STILL REMAINS A  
SOMEWHAT OF A LOWER CONFIDENCE SITUATION, THOUGH THE RANGE OF  
POTENTIAL OUTCOMES IS STARTING TO NARROW. THE STRENGTH OF THE  
INTERACTION/PHASE BETWEEN THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW AND AN UPSTREAM TROUGH  
WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT HOW THE FORECAST EVOLVES. AS MENTIONED BY  
THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT, THE EURO SUITE GENERALLY FAVORS A MORE  
NORTHWARD TRACK OF THE OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW, WHERE AS THE GFS SUITE  
IS ON MORE OF A NORTHEASTERLY TRAJECTORY. THE GENERAL EURO/EPS  
THEME, WHICH WE'LL CALL SCENARIO #1, WOULD ALLOW FOR COLDER AIR TO  
ADVECT IN FROM THE NORTHWEST ON WEDNESDAY, RESULTING IN THE  
POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF LIGHT SNOW. SCENARIO #2, DEPICTED BY  
THE GFS/GEFS, TAKES MORE OF AN EASTERLY TRACK TOWARDS THE  
NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. WHILE THERE WILL STILL BE SOME DEGREE OF  
COLD AIR ADVECTION ON THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THE UPPER-LOW, IT  
MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE MUCH IN THE WAY OF WINTRY  
PRECIPITATION. THE CANADIAN SUITE LEANS ON THE SIDE OF THE  
EUROPEAN, WITH A MORE NORTHWARD TRACK OF THE INITIAL SURFACE  
LOW. PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER, IT CERTAINLY LOOKS POSSIBLE  
FOR LIGHT SNOW TO OCCUR ACROSS THE REGION WEDNESDAY, HOWEVER  
AMOUNTS WOULD BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE DEPTH OF COLD AIR ALOFT  
AND WOULD MOST LIKELY NOT BE SIGNIFICANT. A SECONDARY SURFACE  
SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO DEEPEN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES THURSDAY,  
THOUGH LATEST TRENDS KEEP THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA DRY WITH ALL  
OF THE WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SYSTEM OFF  
TO THE EAST. NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BRING COLDER TEMPERATURES  
FOR THE MIDDLE TO END OF NEXT WEEK, WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND  
LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1205 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
GUSTY SOUTHEAST WINDS ARE THE MAIN AVIATION STORY TO OPEN THE  
18Z TAF PERIOD. VFR CONDITIONS ARE SET TO PREVAIL THROUGH THE  
AFTERNOON FOR THE MINNESOTA TERMINALS. MVFR STRATUS IS LIFTING  
NORTHWEST IN WESTERN WISCONSIN AND HAS ALREADY REACHED EAU. THE  
STRATUS WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH CLOSELY AT RNH AND POTENTIALLY  
MSP (SEE BELOW) HEADING INTO THIS EVENING. A SURFACE COLD FRONT  
WILL MOVE THROUGH FROM WEST TO EAST TONIGHT, WHICH WILL KICK THE  
WINDS OUT OF THE WEST HEADING INTO SUNDAY. CONFIDENCE REMAINS  
HIGH THAT THE THE FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL NOT PRODUCE PRECIPITATION  
AT MOST OF THE TERMINALS, HOWEVER HI-RES GUIDANCE DEPICTS THE  
POTENTIAL FOR -SHRA AT EAU. WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE PROB30  
BETWEEN 3-7Z AT EAU TO ADDRESS THIS POTENTIAL. WESTERLY WINDS  
ARE FORECAST TO GUST BETWEEN 20-25 KTS AFTER DAYBREAK SUNDAY.  
 
KMSP...KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON SURFACE OBSERVATIONS ACROSS  
NORTHEAST IOWA/WESTERN WISCONSIN, AS MVFR STRATUS IS SLOWLY  
LIFTING TO THE NORTHWEST. LATEST RAP GUIDANCE HAS TRENDED  
OPTIMISTIC AT MSP, SUCH THAT WE'VE OPTED TO ROLL WITH VFR CIGS  
THROUGH THE PERIOD. INTRODUCED SCT025/020 TO ILLUSTRATE THE  
IDEA OF BRIEF MVFR CONDITIONS UNTIL WINDS SHIFT MORE SW/W AFTER  
4/5Z.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
MON...VFR. WIND SE 10-15KTS.  
TUE...MVFR/RA, IFR LIKELY. WIND E 10-15KTS BCMG W 15-20G30 KTS.  
WED...MVFR. CHANCE -SHRA/IFR. WIND NW 15G25-30KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...STRUS  
AVIATION...STRUS  
 
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