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FXUS63 KMPX 170459  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
1059 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- MILD AND WINDY WEATHER CONTINUES THIS AFTERNOON, WITH SLIGHTLY  
COOLER BUT STILL BREEZY CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY.  
 
- WIDESPREAD SOAKING RAINFALL MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. AN INCH OR  
SO OF RAIN LOOKS LIKELY AT MOST LOCATIONS.  
 
- COOLER AIR ARRIVES FOR THE SECOND HALF OF NEXT WEEK, WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 230 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
EARLY AFTERNOON SURFACE ANALYSIS CAPTURES ~998MB LOW PRESSURE  
LOCATED IN SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA. THE ANALYZED TIGHT PRESSURE  
GRADIENT EAST OF THE SURFACE LOW HAS PRODUCED STRONG SOUTHEASTERLY  
WINDS ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN. THE  
COMBINATION OF WARM AIR ADVECTION AND EFFICIENT MIXING HAS ALLOWED  
FOR TEMPERATURES TO WARM INTO THE 50S ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTH CENTRAL  
MINNESOTA. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVER THE  
COMING HOURS, TIED TO THE NORTHEASTWARD MOVEMENT OF THE SURFACE  
LOW. NOT MUCH CHANGE THE EXPECTED DRY PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, WITH  
THE ONLY MENTION OF 20-30% POPS ACROSS THE EASTERNMOST COUNTIES  
IN WESTERN WISCONSIN. STEEP LAPSE RATES AND BETTER SATURATION  
WITHIN THE COLUMN MAY PROMOTE SCATTERED SHOWERS LATER THIS  
EVENING. THE GUSTY SOUTH/SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS ARE FORECAST TO  
TURN WESTERLY BEHIND THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. SLIGHTLY COOLER, BUT  
STILL ABOVE AVERAGE HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S/LOW 50S ARE ON DECK  
FOR SUNDAY, WITH GUSTS AROUND 20-25 MPH POSSIBLE. WINDS WILL  
DIMINISH BY TOMORROW EVENING, WITH CLEAR AND QUIET WEATHER TO  
CLOSE THE WEEKEND.  
 
THE FORECAST TAKES A MUCH WETTER TURN TO OPEN THE WORK WEEK. A  
NEGATIVELY-TILTED SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS PROGGED TO KICK NORTHEAST FROM  
THE DESERT SOUTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS BY MIDDAY MONDAY.  
STRONG ASCENT EAST OF THE SHORTWAVE WILL SPAWN A SURFACE LOW ACROSS  
CENTRAL TEXAS MONDAY MORNING, WITH A TRAJECTORY TOWARDS THE UPPER  
MIDWEST. A PROLONGED FETCH OF GULF MOISTURE WILL YIELD A NEARLY 5  
SIGMA PWAT ANOMALY INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BY MONDAY EVENING. IN  
FACT, THE EXPECTED 1-1.25" PWATS WILL BE NEAR THE  
CLIMATOLOGICAL MAXIMUM, POTENTIALLY SETTING A NEW RECORD PER MPX  
SOUNDING CLIMATOLOGY. MOISTURE RETURN WILL WORK IN TANDEM WITH  
BROAD ISENTROPIC ASCENT TO PRODUCE AN EXPANSIVE SHIELD OF  
RAINFALL NORTH OF THE SURFACE LOW, WHICH IS SET TO ARRIVE IN  
SOUTHERN MINNESOTA BY MONDAY AFTERNOON. HIGH CONFIDENCE A  
PROLONGED PERIOD OF RAINFALL IS REFLECTED BY 90-100% POPS ACROSS  
THE ENTIRE AREA MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE LATEST  
QPF EXPECTATIONS BETWEEN 1-1.5" FOR THE MAJORITY OF COMMUNITIES  
REMAINS LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. RAIN WILL  
END FROM SOUTH TO NORTH TUESDAY MORNING, AS THE SYSTEMS DRY SLOT  
WRAPS IN. EASTERLY WINDS WILL BE THE STRONGEST ACROSS EASTERN  
MN/WESTERN WI INITIALLY, FOLLOWED BY AN INCREASE IN  
NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ACROSS WESTERN MN ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE  
SURFACE LOW TUESDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
THE EVOLUTION OF THE FORECAST BEYOND TUESDAY STILL REMAINS A  
SOMEWHAT OF A LOWER CONFIDENCE SITUATION, THOUGH THE RANGE OF  
POTENTIAL OUTCOMES IS STARTING TO NARROW. THE STRENGTH OF THE  
INTERACTION/PHASING BETWEEN THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW AND AN UPSTREAM  
TROUGH WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT HOW THE FORECAST EVOLVES. AS  
MENTIONED BY THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT, THE EURO SUITE GENERALLY  
FAVORS A MORE NORTHWARD TRACK OF THE OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW,  
WHERE AS THE GFS SUITE IS ON MORE OF A NORTHEASTERLY TRAJECTORY.  
THE GENERAL EURO/EPS THEME, WHICH WE'LL CALL SCENARIO #1, WOULD  
ALLOW FOR COLDER AIR TO ADVECT IN FROM THE NORTHWEST ON  
WEDNESDAY, RESULTING IN THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF LIGHT  
SNOW. SCENARIO #2, DEPICTED BY THE GFS/GEFS, TAKES MORE OF AN  
EASTERLY TRACK TOWARDS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. WHILE THERE  
WILL STILL BE SOME DEGREE OF COLD AIR ADVECTION ON THE WESTERN  
EXTENT OF THE UPPER-LOW, IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE MUCH IN  
THE WAY OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION. THE CANADIAN SUITE LEANS ON  
THE SIDE OF THE EUROPEAN, WITH A MORE NORTHWARD TRACK OF THE  
INITIAL SURFACE LOW. PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER, IT CERTAINLY  
LOOKS POSSIBLE FOR LIGHT SNOW TO OCCUR ACROSS THE REGION  
WEDNESDAY, HOWEVER AMOUNTS WOULD BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE  
DEPTH OF COLD AIR ALOFT AND WOULD MOST LIKELY NOT BE  
SIGNIFICANT. A SECONDARY SURFACE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO DEEPEN  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES THURSDAY, THOUGH LATEST TRENDS KEEP THE  
LOCAL FORECAST AREA DRY WITH ALL OF THE WRAP AROUND  
PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SYSTEM OFF TO THE EAST.  
NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BRING COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE MIDDLE  
TO END OF NEXT WEEK, WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1049 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
COLD FRONT HAS BEEN MAKING STEADY PROGRESS ACROSS MN THIS  
EVENING AND GOING TAFS HAVE IT TIMED OUT PRETTY GOOD. ONLY  
CHANGES NEEDED WERE TO SLOW DOWN THE CLEARING BY AN HOUR OR TWO  
FOR MKT/MSP/RNH/EAU. OF GREATER CONCERNS IS THE STRATUS BACK  
OVER THE DAKOTAS, WHICH CONTINUES TO REACH FARTHER SOUTH THAN  
ANY GUIDANCE SAYS IT SHOULD. THE GOOD THINK ABOUT THAT IS THAT  
CONFIDENCE IS HIGH THAT THIS STRATUS WILL IMPACT AXN/STC TONIGHT  
INTO SUNDAY MORNING, BUT THERE'S A THREAT WE COULD SEE IT GET  
INTO RWF AND MSP AS WELL. GIVEN THE SURFACE LOW THAT IS  
PROVIDING THE CYCLONIC FLOW WILL BE GOING NNE THROUGH THE NIGHT,  
WE EXPECT THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE STRATUS TO GO FROM ITS CURRENT  
POSITION NEAR MITCHEL (KMHE), NORTHEAST INTO NORTHWEST WI.  
BEHIND THE MORNING STRATUS, SKIES WILL CLEAR OUT. WE'LL HAVE  
GUSTY WEST WINDS INTO THE AFTERNOON, BUT BY SUNSET, WE'LL START  
LOSING THE GUSTS, WITH THE WINDS TURNING BACK TO THE SOUTH BY  
THE END OF THE PERIOD.  
 
KMSP...STRATUS IN THE DAKOTAS IS MUCH FARTHER SOUTH THAN PRETTY  
MUCH ANYTHING THINKS IT SHOULD BE, SO WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR THE  
POSSIBILITY OF MVFR CIGS BETWEEN 11Z AND 16Z, THOUGH CURRENT  
THINKING IS THAT THOSE CIGS WILL SLIDE NORTH OF MSP.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
MON...VFR. RA/MVFR IN EVENING. WIND SE 10-15KTS.  
TUE...MVFR/IFR. MRNG RA. WIND E 10-15KTS BCMG W 20-25G35 KTS.  
WED...MVFR. CHANCE -SHRA/IFR. WIND WNW 15G25-30KTS.  
 
 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...STRUS  
AVIATION...MPG  
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