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FXUS63 KMPX 172030  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
230 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WIDESPREAD SOAKING RAINFALL MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO TUESDAY MORNING.  
AN INCH OR SO OF RAIN APPEARS LIKELY AT MOST LOCATIONS.  
 
- COLDER AIR ARRIVES FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK, WITH SOME SNOW  
ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA TUESDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
- TEMPERATURES WILL BE MUCH COLDER BY THE END OF THE WORK WEEK, WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 221 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
VISIBLE SATELLITE REVEALS CLEAR SKIES ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA  
AND WESTERN WISCONSIN. AFTERNOON HIGHS ARE ON TRACK TO TOP OUT WELL  
ABOVE NORMAL, IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOW 50S. WSW WINDS WILL  
OCCASIONALLY GUST TO AROUND 20 MPH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON, HOWEVER  
THEY ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH HEADING INTO THE EVENING. DESPITE  
CLEAR SKIES TONIGHT, LIGHT SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL SUPPORT  
TEMEPRATURES FROM FALLING BELOW THE FREEZING MARK IN MANY  
SPOTS. RAP FORECAST SOUNDINGS HAVE HINTED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF  
PATCHY FOG GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF I-94 WHERE WINDS ARE  
FORECAST TO BE THE LIGHTEST AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY CLIMBS ABOVE  
90 PERCENT FROM JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT THROUGH DAYBREAK. CONFIDENCE  
IS LOW IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOG, BUT IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO  
KEEP AN EYE ON OVERNIGHT. MONDAY WILL BEGIN CALM AND DRY.  
TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO CLIMB INTO THE LOW TO MID 50S PRIOR  
TO THE ARRIVAL OF SOAKING RAIN THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE  
DAY.  
 
CONUS WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND 500MB ANALYSIS REVEAL A CLOSED UPPER-  
LOW CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER ARIZONA. THE CLOSED LOW WILL BECOME  
NEGATIVELY TILTED AS IT LIFTS NORTHEAST OVER THE SOUTHERN GREAT  
PLAINS. BROAD ASCENT EAST OF THE UPPER-LOW WILL SPAWN DEVELOPING  
A SURFACE CYCLONE ACROSS TEXAS TONIGHT. THE ~980S MB SURFACE LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM IS PROGGED TO RACE NORTH MONDAY AND WILL BRING  
A PERIOD OF REGION-WIDE RAINFALL MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH  
TUESDAY MORNING. FAVORABLE MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC  
ASCENT WILL WORK IN TANDEM TO PRODUCE A WIDESPREAD SHIELD OF  
RAINFALL TO THE NORTH OF THE SURFACE LOW. EXPECTED MOISTURE  
RETURN INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST REMAINS QUITE REMARKABLE, WITH  
PWATS (1-1.25") NEAR RECORD VALUES PER MPX SOUNDING CLIMATOLOGY.  
OUR LATEST FORECAST ILLUSTRATES THE ARRIVAL OF THE RAIN ACROSS  
SOUTHERN MINNESOTA BY EARLY AFTERNOON. RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO  
LIFT NORTHWARD TOWARDS THE I-94 CORRIDOR THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON,  
SETTING THE STAGE FOR A SOGGY EVENING COMMUTE. THE RAIN WILL BE  
MODERATE TO HEAVY AT TIMES THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY, PRIOR TO THE  
ARRIVAL OF THE SYSTEM'S DRY SLOT WHICH WILL BRING AN END TO THE  
RAIN FROM SOUTH TO NORTH TUESDAY MORNING. MOST LOCATIONS ARE  
EXPECTED TO SEE AN INCH OR SO OF RAIN, WITH UP TO AN INCH AND A  
HALF POSSIBLE. WESTERLY GUSTS WILL REACH SPEEDS BETWEEN 30-40  
MPH ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA TUESDAY.  
 
FORECAST GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE  
RANGE OF POSSIBLE OUTCOMES REGARDING WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION AND  
POTENTIAL SNOWFALL ON WEDNESDAY. THE LATEST RUNS OF THE EPS/GEM  
SUITES REMAIN STEADFAST ON A DUE NORTH/NORTHWEST TRACK AND CESSATION  
OF THE OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN MANITOBA. NEW GEFS  
SUITE HAS TRENDED FURTHER WEST ACROSS THE ENSEMBLE MEMBERSHIP, WHICH  
IS REFLECTED IN THE DETERMINISTIC RUN AS WELL. THE AFOREMENTIONED  
STALL OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL ALLOW FOR NORTHWESTERLY FLOW TO  
TRANSPORT COLDER AIR FROM SOUTHERN CANADA INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST,  
ALLOWING FOR WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION TO TRANSITION TO LIGHT SNOW.  
IT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST CHANCE FOR SEVERAL INCHES OF ACCUMULATING  
SNOW WILL BE FOR LOCATIONS NEAR THE SURFACE LOW, SAY ACROSS  
NORTH DAKOTA, DUE TO BETTER DYNAMICS. HOWEVER, CURVATURE VORTICITY  
SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH LIFT TO PRODUCE SNOW SHOWERS LOCALLY. THE  
BEST CHANCE FOR A FEW INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION WILL BE ACROSS  
WESTERN MINNESOTA. WE DON'T EXPECT AS MUCH IN TERMS OF ACCUMULATION  
IN EASTERN MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN, THOUGH THE COMBINATION  
OF STRONG NORTHWESTERLY WINDS AND SNOW SHOWERS WILL MAKE FOR A  
RATHER UNPLEASANT DAY OUTDOORS. WE HAVE REFLECTED THIS POTENTIAL  
WITH 40-60% POPS IN THE GRIDS. THE 12Z NAM IS AN OUTLIER IN THE  
DATA SET, WITH AN ELONGATED SURFACE LOW LOCATED FURTHER TO THE  
NORTH AND EAST THAN THE SCENARIO CAPTURED ABOVE. IN THIS SOLUTION,  
THE WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION/SNOWFALL ARE MORE LIKELY ACROSS  
NORTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA, WITH DRY WEATHER IN THE SOUTH.  
 
THE UPPER-LOW IS PROGGED TO TRANSLATE SOUTHEAST OVER THE GREAT  
LAKES ON THURSDAY. WE'LL KEEP THE CHANCE FOR A FEW SNOWFLAKES  
AROUND EARLY THURSDAY MORNING, BEFORE THE UPPER-LEVEL FEATURES  
MOVE OFF TO THE EAST. NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BECOME THE  
DOMINATING FEATURE IN THE UPPER AIR PATTERN THROUGH THE UPCOMING  
WEEKEND, WHICH WILL DROP TEMPERATURES INTO THE 30S FOR HIGHS  
AND 20S FOR LOWS. THE FORECAST APPEARS QUIET THROUGH SATURDAY,  
BUT GLOBAL MODELS HAVE STARTED TO HINT AT A CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM  
MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS ROUGHLY A WEEK FROM NOW. THERE  
IS A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE CAN LOCK IN ANY SPECIFICS, BUT  
THE EXPECTED ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW TO BE IN  
THE DISCUSSION IF A WEATHER SYSTEM WERE TO TAKE SHAPE.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z MONDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1126 AM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
MORNING STRATUS HAS LIFTED NORTH OF THE TERMINALS, BEGINNING  
WHAT WILL BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF CLEAR SKIES AND VFR  
CONDITIONS FOR MOST OF THE 18Z TAF PERIOD. WEST/SOUTHWESTERLY  
WINDS WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE THIS EVENING, BEFORE TURNING  
SOUTHERLY BY DAYBREAK. FORECAST GUIDANCE TEASES THE IDEA OF  
PATCHY FOG DEVELOPING AROUND 12Z AT A FEW OF THE TERMINALS,  
HOWEVER THIS IS A LOW CONFIDENCE SCENARIO AT THIS TIME, SO DID  
NOT INCLUDE IN THE TAFS. A BROAD SHIELD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY  
RAIN, STRONG EASTERLY WINDS, AND MVFR/IFR OR LOWER CEILINGS AND  
VISIBILITY WILL IMPACT ALL TERMINALS MONDAY EVENING INTO  
TUESDAY. FORTHCOMING TAFS WILL BEGIN TO ADDRESS THE EXPECTED  
CONDITIONS.  
 
KMSP...CONDITIONS WILL BEGIN TO DETERIORATE MONDAY AFTERNOON,  
WITH RAIN, LOW CEILINGS/VISIBILITY, AND GUSTY WINDS OUT OF THE  
SOUTHEAST. WE HAVE INCLUDED A PROB30 AT THE END OF THE 18Z TAF  
TO ADDRESS THIS POTENTIAL.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
TUE...MVFR/IFR. RA EARLY. WIND SE 10-15KTS BCMG W 20-25G35 KTS.  
WED...MVFR. CHANCE -SHSN/IFR. WIND WNW 15-20G25-30KTS.  
THU...MVFR CEILINGS POSSIBLE. WIND NW 15-20G25-30KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...STRUS  
AVIATION...STRUS  
 
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