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FXUS63 KMPX 172338  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
538 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WIDESPREAD SOAKING RAINFALL MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO TUESDAY MORNING.  
AN INCH OR SO OF RAIN APPEARS LIKELY AT MOST LOCATIONS.  
 
- COLDER AIR ARRIVES FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK, WITH SOME SNOW  
ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA TUESDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
- TEMPERATURES WILL BE MUCH COLDER BY THE END OF THE WORK WEEK, WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 221 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
VISIBLE SATELLITE REVEALS CLEAR SKIES ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA  
AND WESTERN WISCONSIN. AFTERNOON HIGHS ARE ON TRACK TO TOP OUT WELL  
ABOVE NORMAL, IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOW 50S. WSW WINDS WILL  
OCCASIONALLY GUST TO AROUND 20 MPH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON, HOWEVER  
THEY ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH HEADING INTO THE EVENING. DESPITE  
CLEAR SKIES TONIGHT, LIGHT SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL SUPPORT  
TEMPERATURES FROM FALLING BELOW THE FREEZING MARK IN MANY SPOTS.  
RAP FORECAST SOUNDINGS HAVE HINTED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PATCHY  
FOG GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF I-94 WHERE WINDS ARE FORECAST TO  
BE THE LIGHTEST AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY CLIMBS ABOVE 90 PERCENT FROM  
JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT THROUGH DAYBREAK. CONFIDENCE IS LOW IN THE  
DEVELOPMENT OF FOG, BUT IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON  
OVERNIGHT. MONDAY WILL BEGIN CALM AND DRY. TEMPERATURES ARE  
FORECAST TO CLIMB INTO THE LOW TO MID 50S PRIOR TO THE ARRIVAL OF  
SOAKING RAIN THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE DAY.  
 
CONUS WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND 500MB ANALYSIS REVEAL A CLOSED UPPER-  
LOW CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER ARIZONA. THE CLOSED LOW WILL BECOME  
NEGATIVELY TILTED AS IT LIFTS NORTHEAST OVER THE SOUTHERN GREAT  
PLAINS. BROAD ASCENT EAST OF THE UPPER-LOW WILL SPAWN A DEVELOPING  
SURFACE CYCLONE ACROSS TEXAS TONIGHT. THE ~980S MB SURFACE LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM IS PROGGED TO RACE NORTH MONDAY AND WILL BRING A  
PERIOD OF REGION-WIDE RAINFALL MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY  
MORNING. FAVORABLE MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT WILL  
WORK IN TANDEM TO PRODUCE A WIDESPREAD SHIELD OF RAINFALL TO THE  
NORTH OF THE SURFACE LOW. EXPECTED MOISTURE RETURN INTO THE UPPER  
MIDWEST REMAINS QUITE REMARKABLE, WITH PWATS (1-1.25") NEAR RECORD  
VALUES PER MPX SOUNDING CLIMATOLOGY. OUR LATEST FORECAST  
ILLUSTRATES THE ARRIVAL OF THE RAIN ACROSS SOUTHERN MINNESOTA BY  
EARLY AFTERNOON. RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD TOWARDS THE  
I-94 CORRIDOR THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON, SETTING THE STAGE FOR A  
SOGGY EVENING COMMUTE. THE RAIN WILL BE MODERATE TO HEAVY AT TIMES  
THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY, PRIOR TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE SYSTEM'S DRY  
SLOT WHICH WILL BRING AN END TO THE RAIN FROM SOUTH TO NORTH  
TUESDAY MORNING. MOST LOCATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO SEE AN INCH OR SO  
OF RAIN, WITH UP TO AN INCH AND A HALF POSSIBLE. WESTERLY GUSTS  
WILL REACH SPEEDS BETWEEN 30-40 MPH ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA  
TUESDAY.  
 
FORECAST GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE  
RANGE OF POSSIBLE OUTCOMES REGARDING WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION AND  
POTENTIAL SNOWFALL ON WEDNESDAY. THE LATEST RUNS OF THE EPS/GEM  
SUITES REMAIN STEADFAST ON A DUE NORTH/NORTHWEST TRACK AND CESSATION  
OF THE OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN MANITOBA. NEW GEFS  
SUITE HAS TRENDED FURTHER WEST ACROSS THE ENSEMBLE MEMBERSHIP, WHICH  
IS REFLECTED IN THE DETERMINISTIC RUN AS WELL. THE AFOREMENTIONED  
STALL OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL ALLOW FOR NORTHWESTERLY FLOW TO  
TRANSPORT COLDER AIR FROM SOUTHERN CANADA INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST,  
ALLOWING FOR WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION TO TRANSITION TO LIGHT SNOW.  
IT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST CHANCE FOR SEVERAL INCHES OF ACCUMULATING  
SNOW WILL BE FOR LOCATIONS NEAR THE SURFACE LOW, SAY ACROSS  
NORTH DAKOTA, DUE TO BETTER DYNAMICS. HOWEVER, CURVATURE VORTICITY  
SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH LIFT TO PRODUCE SNOW SHOWERS LOCALLY. THE  
BEST CHANCE FOR A FEW INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION WILL BE ACROSS  
WESTERN MINNESOTA. WE DON'T EXPECT AS MUCH IN TERMS OF ACCUMULATION  
IN EASTERN MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN, THOUGH THE COMBINATION  
OF STRONG NORTHWESTERLY WINDS AND SNOW SHOWERS WILL MAKE FOR A  
RATHER UNPLEASANT DAY OUTDOORS. WE HAVE REFLECTED THIS POTENTIAL  
WITH 40-60% POPS IN THE GRIDS. THE 12Z NAM IS AN OUTLIER IN THE  
DATA SET, WITH AN ELONGATED SURFACE LOW LOCATED FURTHER TO THE  
NORTH AND EAST THAN THE SCENARIO CAPTURED ABOVE. IN THIS SOLUTION,  
THE WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION/SNOWFALL ARE MORE LIKELY ACROSS  
NORTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA, WITH DRY WEATHER IN THE SOUTH.  
 
THE UPPER-LOW IS PROGGED TO TRANSLATE SOUTHEAST OVER THE GREAT  
LAKES ON THURSDAY. WE'LL KEEP THE CHANCE FOR A FEW SNOWFLAKES  
AROUND EARLY THURSDAY MORNING, BEFORE THE UPPER-LEVEL FEATURES  
MOVE OFF TO THE EAST. NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BECOME THE  
DOMINATING FEATURE IN THE UPPER AIR PATTERN THROUGH THE UPCOMING  
WEEKEND, WHICH WILL DROP TEMPERATURES INTO THE 30S FOR HIGHS  
AND 20S FOR LOWS. THE FORECAST APPEARS QUIET THROUGH SATURDAY,  
BUT GLOBAL MODELS HAVE STARTED TO HINT AT A CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM  
MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS ROUGHLY A WEEK FROM NOW. THERE  
IS A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE CAN LOCK IN ANY SPECIFICS, BUT  
THE EXPECTED ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW TO BE IN  
THE DISCUSSION IF A WEATHER SYSTEM WERE TO TAKE SHAPE.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 528 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
WELL, THE RAIN WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR DAYS EARLY IN THE  
UPCOMING WEEK HAS FINALLY MADE IT INTO THE TAF WINDOW. THE ONLY  
FIELDS THAT MAY STAY DRY THIS PERIOD ARE AXN & STC AS RAIN WILL  
JUST BE MOVING INTO THOSE TERMINALS AS THIS PERIOD ENDS. FOR ALL  
OTHER TERMINALS, A WALL OF WATER WILL MOVE IN DURING THE  
AFTERNOON. RAP SOUNDINGS SHOW THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME MVFR CIGS  
MOVING IN A COUPLE OF HOURS AHEAD OF THE RAIN, BUT ONCE RAINS  
HIT, CIGS WILL QUICKLY DROP TO IFR LEVELS, WITH IFR/MVFR VIS. AS  
THE RAIN ARRIVES, EAST WINDS WILL BE PICKING UP IN STRENGTH AND  
BECOME GUSTY AS WELL.  
 
KMSP...FOR NEARLY 24 HOURS OUT, MODEL SPREAD IS PRETTY SMALL  
WITH ONSET OF RAIN ON MONDAY AT EITHER 21Z OR 22Z.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
TUE...MVFR/IFR. RA EARLY. WIND WSW 20-25G35 KTS.  
WED...MVFR. CHANCE -SHSN/IFR. WIND W 15-20G25-30KTS.  
THU...MVFR CIGS LIKELY. WIND NW 15-20G25-30KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...STRUS  
AVIATION...MPG  
 
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