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FXUS63 KMPX 200848  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
248 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- LIGHT SNOW COVERAGE WILL INCREASE FROM WEST TO EAST TODAY. SLICK  
TRAVEL IS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH GUSTY WINDS.  
 
- STRONGEST WINDS IN WESTERN MN, GUSTS AS HIGH AS 35MPH.  
 
- QUIET WEATHER RETURNS THURSDAY, WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES  
PERSISTING INTO NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 248 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
THE SATELLITE PRODUCTS OF CHOICE THIS MORNING INCLUDE BOTH THE  
NIGHTTIME MICROPHYSICS RGB AS WELL AS THE DIFFERENT WATER VAPOR,  
WHICH SHOW THE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CVA FORCED EASTERN  
EDGE OF THE INCOMING DEEP LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND THE MORE  
GRADIENT/BOUNDARY FORCED WESTERN REGION. THERE IS A DEGREE OF  
ROUGHNESS WITHIN THE CLOUD COVER SHOWING A SUBTLE CONVECTIVE ELEMENT  
STRETCHING FROM SOUTH-CENTRAL MINNESOTA DOWN TOWARDS THE MN/IA/SD  
BORDER, WITH A COUPLE RUMBLES OF THUNDER NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION  
(FURTHER REINFORCED BY THE MPX 00Z SOUNDING PRODUCING A SMALL AMOUNT  
OF SURFACE BASED CAPE). THE BAND OF LIGHT SNOW SHOWING UP ON RADAR  
IS CONFINED TO THE PRIMARY FORCING ALONG THE STACKED LOW THAT WILL  
MOVE THROUGH TODAY, CURRENTLY OVER THE EASTERN DAKOTAS APPROACHING  
FAR WESTERN MN. THE BEST SHOT FOR ACCUMULATIONS ON THE ORDER OF A  
FEW INCHES WILL REMAIN IN WESTERN MINNESOTA, FOR THE MPX COVERAGE  
AREA GENERALLY IN AND AROUND DOUGLAS, POPE, STEVENS, AND SWIFT  
COUNTIES; HOWEVER WE STILL ANTICIPATE SNOW FALLING ACROSS MUCH OF  
THE AREA TODAY, ALBEIT AT LOWER OVERALL ACCUMULATION. THE TIMING  
WILL BECOME A KEY THING TO WATCH AS OVERNIGHT CAM GUIDANCE HAS  
HINTED AT A FEW BANDS OF STRONGER SNOW AMIDST THE LIGHTER RATES FROM  
MID AFTERNOON TO EARLY EVENING DURING PRIME COMMUTER HOURS. THE  
EXPECTATION FOR MOST PEOPLE WILL STILL BE A DUSTING ON GRASSY  
SURFACES WITH LIMITED SNOW STICKING TO WELL TRAVELED ROADWAYS,  
HOWEVER SHOULD WE SEE A BAND PRODUCING LOWER VISIBILITY AND HIGHER  
RATES EVEN FOR A BRIEF PERIOD, THIS COULD RESULT IN SLICK ROADWAYS  
AND TRAVEL CHALLENGES FOR THE EVENING COMMUTE. POSITIONING THE BANDS  
BECOMES THE CHALLENGE AS THERE IS NO CLEAR CONSENSUS WITHIN THE  
SUITE OF GUIDANCE, WITH SOUTHERN MN FAVORED TOWARDS THE LATER  
PORTIONS OF THE EVENING. THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN AS  
BOTH THE SURFACE LOW AND OCCLUSION ALOFT BEGIN TO POSITIVELY TILT  
AND FLATTEN OUT AS THEY APPROACH THE GREAT LAKES WITH THE LIGHT SNOW  
CEASING FROM LATE EVENING TO EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. THE OTHER THING  
TO LOOK OUT FOR TODAY WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE STRONG WINDS WE  
HAVE BEEN SEEING FROM THIS SYSTEM DUE TO A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT  
AND VERTICAL MIXING FORCED BY THE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF THE SYSTEM.  
GUSTS COULD REACH AS HIGH AS 35MPH IN WESTERN AND SOUTHWESTERN  
MINNESOTA DECREASING SLIGHTLY TO 25-30MPH FOR THE TWIN CITIES AND  
WESTERN WISCONSIN.  
 
AS THE SYSTEM WEAKENS AND MOVES EASTWARDS, PRECIPITATION WILL CEASE  
BUT WINDS WILL STAY HIGHER AS THEY SHIFT NORTHWESTERLY ON THE  
WESTERN SIDE OF THE DEPARTING SYSTEM. BLUSTERY CONDITIONS WILL  
PERSIST THROUGH THURSDAY BEFORE FALLING BACK ON FRIDAY AS THE  
GRADIENT WEAKENS WITH THE SYSTEM APPROACHING THE EASTERN COAST OF  
THE US. BY SATURDAY OUR SURFACE WINDS WILL BE QUITE WEAK WITH  
PERSISTENT WESTERLY TO NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT KEEPING WEAK  
SUBSIDENCE LOCKED IN PLACE, WHICH WILL ALSO KEEP OUR TEMPERATURES  
LOCKED INTO THE UPPER 30S FOR HIGHS COMPARED TO NEAR 30 FOR LOWS  
THROUGH THE REST OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. OUR NEXT CHANCE FOR  
PRECIPITATION WOULD POINT TOWARDS EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH A SYSTEM  
MOVING WEST TO EAST ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA, HOWEVER FOR NOW  
PREDICTABILITY IS A BIT TOO LOW FOR ANY CERTAINTY GIVEN THE NEED FOR  
BETTER FORCING ALONG ANY FRONTAL BOUNDARIES AS WELL AS VERTICAL  
SUPPORT FROM A LACK OF AN UPPER LEVEL JET. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE SHOWS  
QUITE A SIGNIFICANT SPREAD WITH NO CLEAR CONSENSUS, AND WILL  
CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL WE AT LEAST GET THROUGH THE NEXT 36-48 HOURS  
AND KICK OUR ARRIVING SYSTEM OUT OF THE REGION.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1105 PM CST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
ANY VFR CIGS SHOULD DROP TO MVFR (NEAR 2000 FEET) BY SUNRISE  
THIS MORNING AS LOW-LEVEL STRATUS MOVES IN FROM THE WEST. LIGHT  
SNOW WILL START AT ABOUT 09-11Z IN WESTERN MN AND SPREAD EAST  
WITH TIME THROUGHOUT THE MORNING. VISIBILITIES SHOULD DROP TO AT  
LEAST 5 MILES DURING LIGHT SNOW. IN FACT, FORECAST MODELS SHOW  
2 PERIODS OF POTENTIALLY HEAVIER SNOW. THE FIRST DURING THIS  
MORNING AND THE SECOND BEING MID-AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS  
EVENING. HAVE ADDED TEMPO GROUPS AT MOST TERMINALS TO ACCOUNT  
FOR THIS WITH CONDITIONS DROPPING TO IFR/LIFR. SNOW WILL  
EVENTUALLY TAPER OFF WEDNESDAY EVENING. WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY  
WINDS WILL GRADUALLY BECOME NORTHWESTERLY WITH SPEEDS INCREASING  
INTO THIS AFTERNOON AS A LOW-LEVEL JET MOVES OVER MN. STRONGEST  
WINDS ARE EXPECTED IN WESTERN MN WHERE SUSTAINED VALUES WILL BE  
NEAR 20 KNOTS AND GUSTS WILL BE NEAR 30 KNOTS. WINDS GRADUALLY  
SLOW AS ONE GOES EAST WITH GUSTS NEAR 20 KNOTS AT RNH AND EAU.  
WINDS SHOULD LESSEN A BIT WEDNESDAY EVENING.  
 
KMSP...LIGHT SNOW WILL START AROUND 13Z WITH CONDITIONS DROPPING  
TO MVFR. HAVE KEPT TEMPO FROM 14-18Z FOR PERIODS OF HEAVIER SNOW  
RESULTING IN IFR VISIBILITY. SNOW SHOWERS WILL BECOME MORE  
PREVALENT DURING THE AFTERNOON SO BREAKS IN MVFR VISIBILITY ARE  
POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, FORECAST MODELS DO SHOW ANOTHER CHANCE OF  
HEAVIER SNOW FROM 22-02Z SO HAVE ADDED A PROB30. WEST-  
NORTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL GUST TO 20-25 KNOTS WEDNESDAY  
AFTERNOON.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
THU...MVFR CIGS LIKELY. WIND NW 20-25G30-35KTS.  
FRI...CHC MVFR CIGS. WIND NW 10-15KTS.  
SAT...CHC MVFR CIGS. WIND NW 5-10 KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR  
DOUGLAS-POPE-STEVENS.  
WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR LAC QUI PARLE-  
YELLOW MEDICINE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...TDH  
AVIATION...CTG  
 
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