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FXUS63 KMPX 201129  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
529 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- LIGHT SNOW COVERAGE WILL INCREASE FROM WEST TO EAST TODAY. SLICK  
TRAVEL IS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH GUSTY WINDS.  
 
- STRONGEST WINDS IN WESTERN MN, GUSTS AS HIGH AS 35MPH.  
 
- QUIET WEATHER RETURNS THURSDAY, WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES  
PERSISTING INTO NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 248 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
THE SATELLITE PRODUCTS OF CHOICE THIS MORNING INCLUDE BOTH THE  
NIGHTTIME MICROPHYSICS RGB AS WELL AS THE DIFFERENT WATER VAPOR,  
WHICH SHOW THE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CVA FORCED EASTERN  
EDGE OF THE INCOMING DEEP LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND THE MORE  
GRADIENT/BOUNDARY FORCED WESTERN REGION. THERE IS A DEGREE OF  
ROUGHNESS WITHIN THE CLOUD COVER SHOWING A SUBTLE CONVECTIVE ELEMENT  
STRETCHING FROM SOUTH-CENTRAL MINNESOTA DOWN TOWARDS THE MN/IA/SD  
BORDER, WITH A COUPLE RUMBLES OF THUNDER NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION  
(FURTHER REINFORCED BY THE MPX 00Z SOUNDING PRODUCING A SMALL AMOUNT  
OF SURFACE BASED CAPE). THE BAND OF LIGHT SNOW SHOWING UP ON RADAR  
IS CONFINED TO THE PRIMARY FORCING ALONG THE STACKED LOW THAT WILL  
MOVE THROUGH TODAY, CURRENTLY OVER THE EASTERN DAKOTAS APPROACHING  
FAR WESTERN MN. THE BEST SHOT FOR ACCUMULATIONS ON THE ORDER OF A  
FEW INCHES WILL REMAIN IN WESTERN MINNESOTA, FOR THE MPX COVERAGE  
AREA GENERALLY IN AND AROUND DOUGLAS, POPE, STEVENS, AND SWIFT  
COUNTIES; HOWEVER WE STILL ANTICIPATE SNOW FALLING ACROSS MUCH OF  
THE AREA TODAY, ALBEIT AT LOWER OVERALL ACCUMULATION. THE TIMING  
WILL BECOME A KEY THING TO WATCH AS OVERNIGHT CAM GUIDANCE HAS  
HINTED AT A FEW BANDS OF STRONGER SNOW AMIDST THE LIGHTER RATES FROM  
MID AFTERNOON TO EARLY EVENING DURING PRIME COMMUTER HOURS. THE  
EXPECTATION FOR MOST PEOPLE WILL STILL BE A DUSTING ON GRASSY  
SURFACES WITH LIMITED SNOW STICKING TO WELL TRAVELED ROADWAYS,  
HOWEVER SHOULD WE SEE A BAND PRODUCING LOWER VISIBILITY AND HIGHER  
RATES EVEN FOR A BRIEF PERIOD, THIS COULD RESULT IN SLICK ROADWAYS  
AND TRAVEL CHALLENGES FOR THE EVENING COMMUTE. POSITIONING THE BANDS  
BECOMES THE CHALLENGE AS THERE IS NO CLEAR CONSENSUS WITHIN THE  
SUITE OF GUIDANCE, WITH SOUTHERN MN FAVORED TOWARDS THE LATER  
PORTIONS OF THE EVENING. THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN AS  
BOTH THE SURFACE LOW AND OCCLUSION ALOFT BEGIN TO POSITIVELY TILT  
AND FLATTEN OUT AS THEY APPROACH THE GREAT LAKES WITH THE LIGHT SNOW  
CEASING FROM LATE EVENING TO EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. THE OTHER THING  
TO LOOK OUT FOR TODAY WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE STRONG WINDS WE  
HAVE BEEN SEEING FROM THIS SYSTEM DUE TO A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT  
AND VERTICAL MIXING FORCED BY THE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF THE SYSTEM.  
GUSTS COULD REACH AS HIGH AS 35MPH IN WESTERN AND SOUTHWESTERN  
MINNESOTA DECREASING SLIGHTLY TO 25-30MPH FOR THE TWIN CITIES AND  
WESTERN WISCONSIN.  
 
AS THE SYSTEM WEAKENS AND MOVES EASTWARDS, PRECIPITATION WILL CEASE  
BUT WINDS WILL STAY HIGHER AS THEY SHIFT NORTHWESTERLY ON THE  
WESTERN SIDE OF THE DEPARTING SYSTEM. BLUSTERY CONDITIONS WILL  
PERSIST THROUGH THURSDAY BEFORE FALLING BACK ON FRIDAY AS THE  
GRADIENT WEAKENS WITH THE SYSTEM APPROACHING THE EASTERN COAST OF  
THE US. BY SATURDAY OUR SURFACE WINDS WILL BE QUITE WEAK WITH  
PERSISTENT WESTERLY TO NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT KEEPING WEAK  
SUBSIDENCE LOCKED IN PLACE, WHICH WILL ALSO KEEP OUR TEMPERATURES  
LOCKED INTO THE UPPER 30S FOR HIGHS COMPARED TO NEAR 30 FOR LOWS  
THROUGH THE REST OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. OUR NEXT CHANCE FOR  
PRECIPITATION WOULD POINT TOWARDS EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH A SYSTEM  
MOVING WEST TO EAST ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA, HOWEVER FOR NOW  
PREDICTABILITY IS A BIT TOO LOW FOR ANY CERTAINTY GIVEN THE NEED FOR  
BETTER FORCING ALONG ANY FRONTAL BOUNDARIES AS WELL AS VERTICAL  
SUPPORT FROM A LACK OF AN UPPER LEVEL JET. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE SHOWS  
QUITE A SIGNIFICANT SPREAD WITH NO CLEAR CONSENSUS, AND WILL  
CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL WE AT LEAST GET THROUGH THE NEXT 36-48 HOURS  
AND KICK OUR ARRIVING SYSTEM OUT OF THE REGION.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 511 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
ANY REMAINING VFR CIGS SHOULD BECOME MVFR WITHIN THE FIRST FEW  
HOURS OF THE PERIOD. CLOUD BASES WILL GENERALLY BE NEAR 2000  
FEET. LIGHT SNOW ALREADY ACROSS WESTERN MN WILL CONTINUE  
SPREADING EAST THROUGHOUT THE MORNING. VISIBILITIES ARE  
GENERALLY VFR/MVFR WITH THIS ACTIVITY. HOWEVER, 2 PERIODS OF  
HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES STILL APPEAR LIKELY. HAVE KEPT A TEMPO  
FOR THIS MORNING FOR MOST MN TERMINALS WITH CONDITIONS DROPPING  
TO IFR. HAVE ALSO ADJUSTED THE TEMPO FOR STC, MKT, MSP, RNH, AND  
EAU TO BE MORE FOR LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING.  
HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES ARE POSSIBLE DURING THIS TIME WITH  
VISIBILITIES DROPPING TO AT LEAST IFR. SNOW WILL END THIS  
EVENING. WESTERLY WINDS WILL BE VERY STRONG ACROSS MN WITH GUSTS  
OF AT LEAST 25 KNOTS. STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED AT AXN AND  
RWF WHERE GUSTS OVER 30 KNOTS ARE EXPECTED. WINDS WILL TAPER OFF  
TO THE EAST WITH WI TERMINALS REACHING 20-25 KNOT GUSTS. WINDS  
SHOULD TURN MORE NORTHWESTERLY THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD AND SLOW  
SLIGHTLY THIS EVENING.  
 
KMSP...KEPT TEMPO PERIODS OF IFR VISIBILITIES FROM FALLING SNOW  
AT 14-18Z AND 22-02Z. OUTSIDE OF THOSE TIMES, EXPECT MVFR  
CONDITIONS. WINDS WILL GUST TO 25-30 KNOTS THIS AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING BEFORE SLOWING SLIGHTLY TONIGHT. NORTHWESTERLY WIND  
GUSTS OF 25-30 KNOTS POSSIBLE AGAIN THURSDAY.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
THU...MVFR CIGS LIKELY. WIND NW 20-25G30-35KTS.  
FRI...CHC MVFR CIGS. WIND NW 10-15KTS.  
SAT...CHC MVFR CIGS. WIND NW 5-10 KTS.  
 
 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MN...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR  
DOUGLAS-POPE-STEVENS.  
WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR LAC QUI PARLE-  
YELLOW MEDICINE.  
WI...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...TDH  
AVIATION...CTG  
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