350  
FXUS63 KMPX 211739  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
1139 AM CST THU NOV 21 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- A SLIPPERY MORNING COMMUTE IS EXPECTED WITH CONDITIONS ON  
UNTREATED ROADS LIKELY TO BE SIMILAR TO LAST NIGHT.  
 
- A FEW AREAS OF LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE POSSIBLE IN CENTRAL  
MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN THIS AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES  
WILL BE WARM ENOUGH TO KEEP IT ALL LIQUID.  
 
- COOLER TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WITH HIGHS  
FALLING INTO THE UPPER 20S EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 243 AM CST THU NOV 21 2024  
 
THE MORNING MPX RADAR LOOP CONTINUES TO SHOW VERY LIGHT RETURNS  
AMIDST THE LOW LEVEL STRATUS, FAVORING THE REGION SOUTH OF THE  
METRO AS THE SHOWERS TRY AND WRAP IN TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE  
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER LAKE MICHIGAN. A FEW STATIONS CONTINUE  
TO REPORT LIGHT SNOW OR UNKNOWN PRECIPITATION, WHICH TYPICALLY  
MEANS EITHER A MIST OR FREEZING DRIZZLE LIGHT ENOUGH TO NOT BE  
RECOGNIZED. WHAT THIS MEANS FOR US IS THE ROAD CONDITIONS AT THE  
END OF THE EVENING COMMUTE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS MORNING'S  
COMMUTE BARRING ANY OVERNIGHT TREATMENTS BEING DONE, WITH A  
SLOW AND ICY COMMUTE EXPECTED. EXTRA TIME SHOULD BE TAKEN TO GET  
TO ANY MORNING DESTINATIONS, ESPECIALLY IF THE ROUTE INCLUDES  
AN ELEVATED FEATURE SUCH AS A BRIDGE OR OVERPASS WHICH TEND TO  
HOLD ONTO ICE BETTER THAN ROADWAYS IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUND.  
THE STORY FOR TODAY WILL BE CONTINUED GUSTY WINDS WHICH WILL  
BLOW SOME OF THE FRESH SNOW AROUND RESULTING IN FURTHER TRAVEL  
HAZARDS IN THE FORM OF REDUCED VISIBILITY, ALONGSIDE A BIT OF  
DRIZZLE POSSIBLE MAINLY IN CENTRAL MINNESOTA TO WESTERN  
WISCONSIN WRAPPING AROUND THE SYSTEM OVER THE GREAT LAKES. HIGH  
TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLDER IN WESTERN MINNESOTA WHERE THE WINDS  
WILL HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE NORTH TO NORTHWEST FOR LONGER, WITH  
NEAR 30 ON THE SD/ND/MN BORDER COMPARED TO NEAR 40 IN THE METRO,  
AND LOW TO MID 40S IN WESTERN WISCONSIN. THIS SHOULD KEEP ANY  
OF THE WRAP AROUND LIGHT PRECIPITATION AS PURE LIQUID WITH ANY  
KIND OF IMPACTS FROM COLDER TEMPERATURES WAITING UNTIL  
TEMPERATURES FALL AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT. THESE TEMPERATURES  
SHOULD ALSO ALLEVIATE THE TRAVEL CONCERNS AFTER THIS MORNING,  
SUCH THAT DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN TO MOST ROADWAYS BY MIDDAY.  
 
THE PRESSURE GRADIENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL  
WEAKEN BY SUNRISE FRIDAY AS WINDS DIMINISH WITH NORTHERLY FLOW ALOFT  
AS THE UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK WEAKENS AS RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE  
NORTHERN CONUS BY SATURDAY. CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN DRY THROUGH  
SATURDAY WITH A SMALL CHANCE RETURNING ON SUNDAY AS GUIDANCE REMAINS  
UNCONVINCED OF A SINGLE SOLUTION FOR RIGHT NOW. THE STRONGER UPPER  
LEVEL JET LIKELY STAYS SOUTH OF THE REGION AS ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL  
LOW SLIDES EASTWARDS ACROSS SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA, WITH OUR CHANCE  
FOR PRECIPITATION MAINLY RELYING ON A WEAK COLD FRONT SLIDING  
THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING INTO MONDAY MORNING. DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE  
WOULD WAIT UNTIL THE SYSTEM IS CLOSER TO MICHIGAN TO PRODUCE LIGHT  
PRECIPITATION, WITH ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE LOOSELY FOLLOWING THAT TREND  
AS A FEW MEMBERS OF EACH OF THE EPS/GEFS/CFS SUGGEST SOME LIGHT  
PRECIPITATION ON MONDAY. THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME FOR NOW IS A FEW  
WEAK SHOWERS BUT OVERALL MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES BEING THE PRIMARY  
RESULT WITH THE CURRENT SETUP, AS WE LACK ANY SORT OF UPPER LEVEL  
SUPPORT UNLESS THE SOUTHERN STREAM JET TRENDS A BIT FARTHER  
NORTHWARDS OR THE CANADIAN SYSTEM STALLS AND KEEPS THE FRONT MORE  
DEVELOPED WEST OF WHERE IT CURRENTLY WANTS TO PRODUCE MORE SHOWERS.  
THIS PATTERN DOESN'T CHANGE BY MIDWEEK WITH UPPER LEVEL FLOW  
REMAINING FAIRLY WEAK WITH THE SOUTHERN JET A FULL STATE AWAY AND NO  
STRONG SURFACE SYSTEMS TO FORCE ANY ACTIVE WEATHER. TEMPERATURES  
WILL TREND COOLER AS A RESULT OF THE FRONT MOVING THROUGH SUNDAY  
INTO MONDAY, WITH HIGHS STRUGGLING TO REACH 30 ACROSS THE REGION  
EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z FRIDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1138 AM CST THU NOV 21 2024  
 
AVIATION...LOW MVFR/HIGH IFR STRATUS CONTINUES TO BLANKET ALL SITES  
FOR NEARLY ALL OF THIS NEXT PERIOD. AXN CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY  
EXCEPTION TO LOWER CIGS OVERNIGHT WITH LOW VFR CIGS, AND A FEW HOURS  
OF POTENTIAL FOG EARLY TOMORROW MORNING. STRONG NW'LY GUSTS BETWEEN  
25-30KTS THIS AFTERNOON WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE TO NEAR 10 KTS  
LATE TONIGHT.  
 
KMSP...MVFR STRATUS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE AND POTENTIALLY  
NEAR IFR STATUS THIS EVENING. GUSTY NW WINDS WILL BEGIN TO DECREASE  
AS THIS AFTERNOON PROGRESSES AND EXPECTED TO FALL TO 10 KTS  
OVERNIGHT.  
 
/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/  
SAT...CHC MVFR CIGS. WIND NW 5-10 KTS.  
SUN...VFR. WIND SE 5-10 KTS.  
MON...VFR/MVFR W/ CHC -SHSN. WIND NW 10-15G20KTS.  
 

 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...TDH  
AVIATION...DUNLEAVY  
 
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