891  
FXUS63 KMQT 171841  
AFDMQT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI  
141 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- WEST GUSTS UP TO 30 OVER MAINLY THE WEST HALF, WITH GUSTS OF  
40 TO 45 MPH OVER THE KEWEENAW THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS  
EVENING.  
 
- WESTERLY GALES OF 35 TO 40 KNOTS BEHIND A COLD FRONT THIS  
AFTERNOON AND EVENING ACROSS THE WESTERN HALF OF THE LAKE.  
 
- A STORM SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL BRING A  
ROUND OF RAIN TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/  
 
ISSUED AT 141 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
WITH SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING THE LOW PRESSURE NORTHWEST OF THUNDER  
BAY AND THE COLD FRONT PROGRESSING THROUGH THE U.P. THIS AFTERNOON,  
EXPECT THE GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS TO CONTINUE OVER MAINLY THE WEST  
HALF THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER, THE WINDS LOOK TO WEAKEN  
LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT AS RIDGING LOOKS TO QUICKLY MOVE  
BACK OVER THE AREA. THUS, MOST OF THE AREAS LOOK TO CALM DOWN  
TONIGHT, ALTHOUGH THE KEWEENAW MAY HOLD ONTO THE GUSTIER WINDS  
LONGER TONIGHT WITH SOME HELP FROM LAKE SUPERIOR. SPEAKING OF THE  
KEWEENAW, WITH THE LATEST OBSERVATION AT HOUGHTON AIRPORT SHOWING  
WINDS UP TO 48 MPH, DECIDED TO ISSUE AN SPS FOR THE NORTHERN  
HOUGHTON AND KEWEENAW COUNTIES FOR THE HIGH WINDS OF 40 TO 45 MPH  
UNTIL 7 PM EST. THE STRONG WESTERLY WINDS COULD KNOCK DOWN SOME  
UNSECURED ITEMS AS WELL AS SOME TREE LIMBS; BE CAREFUL DRIVING IN  
THE KEWEENAW THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY THIS EVENING, AND SECURED YOUR  
LOOSE OUTDOOR ITEMS. ELSEWHERE, EXPECT THE WINDS TO ONLY GET UP TO  
AROUND 30 MPH (AS OBSERVATIONS ACROSS THE AREA ARE ALREADY SHOWING).  
 
AS THE CLOUD COVER MOVES AWAY TO THE NORTH THIS AFTERNOON, WE COULD  
SEE A FEW SPOTS GET TO THE LOW 50S, MAINLY IN NEAR THE GREAT LAKES.  
HOWEVER, WITH RADIATIONAL COOLING OCCURRING UNMITIGATED TONIGHT VIA  
THE CLEAR SKIES, EXPECT THE LOWS TO TANK INTO THE MID TO UPPER 20S  
IN THE INTERIOR AREAS; I WOULDN'T EVEN RULE OUT MINIMUM TEMPERATURES  
GETTING LOWER IN THE COLD SPOTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE  
TO GO BELOW WHAT THE DETERMINISTIC NBM HAS RIGHT NOW.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 218 AM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
UPPER AIR PATTERN CONSISTS OF A 500 MB TROUGH IN THE PACIFIC NW, A  
CLOSED LOW OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND A TROUGH IN THE UPPER GREAT  
LAKES 00Z MON. THE CLOSED LOW OVER MEXICO HEADS NORTHEAST AND  
BECOMES A NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS 00Z TUE  
AND THEN HEADS NORTH INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND UPPER  
GREAT LAKES 12Z TUE. THIS SHORTWAVE GETS ABSORBED INTO ENERGY FROM  
THE PACIFIC NW THAT MOVES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND DEVELOPS A  
CLOSED LOW OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS THAT MOVES INTO THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND UPPER GREAT LAKES 12Z WED. DEEPER MOISTURE  
AND 850-500 MB Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE MOVES INTO THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT  
AND REMAINS OVER THE AREA INTO TUE. IT WILL BE DRY TONIGHT THROUGH  
MONDAY BEFORE PCPN MOVES IN FOR MONDAY NIGHT.  
 
IN THE EXTENDED, THE GFS AND ECMWF SHOW A 500 MB CLOSED LOW IN THE  
FAR NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY 12Z WED WHICH THEN DIVES  
SOUTHEAST INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES 12Z THU. UPPER RIDGING THEN  
MOVES INTO THE ROCKIES 12Z THU AND REMAINS THERE THROUGH 12Z FRI AS  
TROUGHING MOVES INTO THE ERN U.S. TROUGHING REMAINS OVER THE UPPER  
GREAT LAKES 12Z SAT INTO 12Z SUN. TEMPERATURES GO FROM ABOVE NORMAL  
TO NEAR NORMAL FOR THIS FORECAST PERIOD. RAIN AND SNOW WILL MIX IN  
TOGETHER ACROSS THE WEST HALF STARTING ON WED.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1201 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
EXPECT THE IMPROVEMENT TO VFR CONDITIONS ACROSS THE AREA BY MID  
AFTERNOON AS CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO DIMINISH BEHIND THE COLD  
FRONT. IN ADDITION, EXPECT THE WINDS TO DIE DOWN THIS AFTERNOON  
THROUGH OVERNIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING BUILDS IN, ALTHOUGH KCMX  
LOOKS TO HOLD ONTO THE GUSTIER WINDS THE LONGEST THROUGH EVEN MOST  
OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. EXPECT SOME LLWS AT KSAW OVERNIGHT AS WEAK  
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AT THE SURFACE CONTEST WITH WEST-NORTHWESTERLY  
WINDS UP TO 40 KT AT 2 KFT. KCMX COULD SEE SOME LLWS TOO, BUT WITH  
MIXING BRINGING STRONGER WINDS TO THE SURFACE THROUGHOUT THE  
OVERNIGHT HOURS, DECIDED NOT TO ADD LLWS TO THEIR TAF. CALM  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE TAF SITES MONDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
ISSUED AT 218 AM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
SOUTH WINDS OF 20 TO 30 KNOTS WILL PICK BACK UP AGAIN FROM THE WEST  
BEHIND A COLD FRONT BY LATE MORNING, WITH WESTERLY GALES OF 35 TO 40  
KNOTS OVER THE WEST HALF OF THE LAKE. A GALE WARNING REMAINS IN  
EFFECT LATE THIS MORNING INTO THIS EVENING FOR THE WEST HALF OF LAKE  
SUPERIOR. AS RIDGING BUILDS IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT TONIGHT, WINDS  
WEAKEN AS THEY VEER NORTHWEST, BECOMING 20 KNOTS OR LESS AGAIN BY  
MONDAY MORNING. A LOW LIFTS FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND HEADS  
TOWARDS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES/UPPER MIDWEST THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF  
THE WEEK. THIS WILL INCREASE WINDS FROM THE EAST TO SOUTHEAST ACROSS  
LAKE SUPERIOR, WITH GALES UP TO AT LEAST 35 KNOTS BEING POSSIBLE BY  
TUESDAY FOR A SECOND POSSIBLE GALE EVENT. AS THE LOW DIGS BACK  
TOWARDS THE GREAT LAKES REGION WEDNESDAY TO THURSDAY, THE MODEL  
SPREAD IN THE WINDS GREATLY INCREASES; HOWEVER, SOME STRONGER WINDS  
LOOK TO RETURN BY LATE WEEK AS THE LOW LOOKS TO REAMPLIFY OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES REGION.  
 
 
   
MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
UPPER MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
LAKE SUPERIOR...  
GALE WARNING UNTIL 5 PM EST /4 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
LSZ162.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 3 PM EST /2 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
LSZ241.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 7 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ242-263.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ243-244-264.  
 
LAKE MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...TAP  
LONG TERM...07  
AVIATION...TAP  
MARINE...07  
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