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FXUS63 KMQT 171959  
AFDMQT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI  
259 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WESTERLY WIND GUSTS UP TO 30MPH OVER MAINLY THE WESTERN UP,  
WITH GUSTS OF 40 TO 45 MPH OVER THE KEWEENAW THIS AFTERNOON  
INTO EARLY THIS EVENING.  
 
- A STORM SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL BRING A  
ROUND OF RAIN TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY.  
 
- BREEZY CONDITIONS AND ON AND OFF RAIN CHANCES CONTINUE THE  
REST OF THE WORK WEEK WITH ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM MOVING  
THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/
 
 
ISSUED AT 141 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
WITH SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING THE LOW PRESSURE NORTHWEST OF THUNDER  
BAY AND THE COLD FRONT PROGRESSING THROUGH THE U.P. THIS AFTERNOON,  
EXPECT THE GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS TO CONTINUE OVER MAINLY THE WEST  
HALF THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER, THE WINDS LOOK TO WEAKEN  
LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT AS RIDGING LOOKS TO QUICKLY MOVE  
BACK OVER THE AREA. THUS, MOST OF THE AREAS LOOK TO CALM DOWN  
TONIGHT, ALTHOUGH THE KEWEENAW MAY HOLD ONTO THE GUSTIER WINDS  
LONGER TONIGHT WITH SOME HELP FROM LAKE SUPERIOR. SPEAKING OF THE  
KEWEENAW, WITH THE LATEST OBSERVATION AT HOUGHTON AIRPORT SHOWING  
WINDS UP TO 48 MPH, DECIDED TO ISSUE AN SPS FOR THE NORTHERN  
HOUGHTON AND KEWEENAW COUNTIES FOR THE HIGH WINDS OF 40 TO 45 MPH  
UNTIL 7 PM EST. THE STRONG WESTERLY WINDS COULD KNOCK DOWN SOME  
UNSECURED ITEMS AS WELL AS SOME TREE LIMBS; BE CAREFUL DRIVING IN  
THE KEWEENAW THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY THIS EVENING, AND SECURED YOUR  
LOOSE OUTDOOR ITEMS. ELSEWHERE, EXPECT THE WINDS TO ONLY GET UP TO  
AROUND 30 MPH (AS OBSERVATIONS ACROSS THE AREA ARE ALREADY SHOWING).  
 
AS THE CLOUD COVER MOVES AWAY TO THE NORTH THIS AFTERNOON, WE COULD  
SEE A FEW SPOTS GET TO THE LOW 50S, MAINLY IN NEAR THE GREAT LAKES.  
HOWEVER, WITH RADIATIONAL COOLING OCCURRING UNMITIGATED TONIGHT VIA  
THE CLEAR SKIES, EXPECT THE LOWS TO TANK INTO THE MID TO UPPER 20S  
IN THE INTERIOR AREAS; I WOULDN'T EVEN RULE OUT MINIMUM TEMPERATURES  
GETTING LOWER IN THE COLD SPOTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE  
TO GO BELOW WHAT THE DETERMINISTIC NBM HAS RIGHT NOW.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 258 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
UPPER AIR PATTERN CONSISTS OF A 500 MB TROUGH IN THE PACIFIC NW, A  
CLOSED LOW OVER TEXAS AND A TROUGH MOVING INTO QUEBEC AND BY 12Z  
MON. THE CLOSED LOW OVER TEXAS HEADS NORTHEAST AND BECOMES A  
NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS 00Z TUE AND THEN  
HEADS NORTH INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND UPPER GREAT LAKES  
12Z TUE. THIS SHORTWAVE GETS ABSORBED INTO ENERGY FROM THE PACIFIC  
NW THAT MOVES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND DEVELOPS A CLOSED LOW  
OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS THAT MOVES INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY AND UPPER GREAT LAKES 12Z WED. DEEPER MOISTURE AND 850-500 MB  
Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE MOVES INTO THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT AND REMAINS  
OVER THE AREA INTO TUE. IT WILL BE DRY TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY BEFORE  
PCPN MOVES IN FOR MONDAY NIGHT. RAIN SHOWERS LIFT NORTH OF THE UP BY  
TUESDAY EVENING, WITH MUCH OF THE AREA BRIEFLY DRYING OUT TUESDAY  
NIGHT.  
 
IN THE EXTENDED, THE GFS AND ECMWF SHOW A 500 MB CLOSED LOW IN THE  
FAR NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY 12Z WED WHICH THEN DIVES  
SOUTHEAST INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES 12Z THU. UPPER RIDGING THEN  
MOVES INTO THE ROCKIES 12Z THU AND REMAINS THERE THROUGH 12Z FRI AS  
TROUGHING MOVES INTO THE ERN U.S. TROUGHING REMAINS OVER THE UPPER  
GREAT LAKES 12Z SAT INTO 12Z SUN. TEMPERATURES GO FROM ABOVE NORMAL  
TO NEAR NORMAL FOR THIS FORECAST PERIOD. RAIN AND SNOW WILL MIX IN  
TOGETHER ACROSS THE WEST HALF STARTING ON WED, THOUGH ENSEMBLES ARE  
FAVORING WET SNOW TOTALS BELOW AN INCH. RAIN SHOWERS, MIXING WITH  
SNOW AT TIMES, CONTINUE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY WITH SOME SPOTTY  
ACTIVITY MAINLY CONTAINED TO THE EASTERN UP INTO THE WEEKEND AS THE  
STACKED LOW SPINS OVER NEW ENGLAND OR THE CANADIAN MARITIMES.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z MONDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1201 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
EXPECT THE IMPROVEMENT TO VFR CONDITIONS ACROSS THE AREA BY MID  
AFTERNOON AS CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO DIMINISH BEHIND THE COLD  
FRONT. IN ADDITION, EXPECT THE WINDS TO DIE DOWN THIS AFTERNOON  
THROUGH OVERNIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING BUILDS IN, ALTHOUGH KCMX  
LOOKS TO HOLD ONTO THE GUSTIER WINDS THE LONGEST THROUGH EVEN MOST  
OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. EXPECT SOME LLWS AT KSAW OVERNIGHT AS WEAK  
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AT THE SURFACE CONTEST WITH WEST-NORTHWESTERLY  
WINDS UP TO 40 KT AT 2 KFT. KCMX COULD SEE SOME LLWS TOO, BUT WITH  
MIXING BRINGING STRONGER WINDS TO THE SURFACE THROUGHOUT THE  
OVERNIGHT HOURS, DECIDED NOT TO ADD LLWS TO THEIR TAF. CALM  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE TAF SITES MONDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ISSUED AT 258 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
WESTERLY GALES TO 35 TO 40KTS CONTINUE ACROSS WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR  
THIS AFTERNOON IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT, BUT GALES SHOULD  
GRADUALLY TAPER OFF LATE THIS EVENING. A GALE WARNING REMAINS IN  
EFFECT INTO THIS EVENING FOR THE WEST HALF OF LAKE SUPERIOR. AS  
RIDGING BUILDS IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT TONIGHT, WINDS WEAKEN AS  
THEY VEER NORTHWEST, BECOMING 20 KNOTS OR LESS AGAIN BY MONDAY  
MORNING WHILE BACKING TO THE SOUTH. A LOW LIFTS FROM THE SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES AND HEADS TOWARDS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES/UPPER MIDWEST  
THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THIS WILL INCREASE WINDS FROM THE  
EAST TO SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR, WITH GALES UP TO AT LEAST 35  
KNOTS BEING POSSIBLE BY TUESDAY FOR A SECOND GALE EVENT. AS THE LOW  
DIGS BACK TOWARDS THE GREAT LAKES REGION WEDNESDAY TO THURSDAY, THE  
MODEL SPREAD IN THE WINDS GREATLY INCREASES; HOWEVER, SOME STRONGER  
WINDS LOOK TO RETURN BY LATE WEEK AS THE LOW LOOKS TO REAMPLIFY OVER  
THE GREAT LAKES REGION.  
 

 
   
MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
UPPER MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
LAKE SUPERIOR...  
GALE WARNING UNTIL 5 PM EST /4 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
LSZ162.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 3 PM EST /2 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
LSZ241.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 7 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ242-263.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ243-244-264.  
 
LAKE MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...TAP  
LONG TERM...LC  
AVIATION...TAP  
MARINE...LC  
 
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