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FXUS63 KMQT 181853  
AFDMQT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI  
153 PM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL TAPER OFF THIS AFTERNOON AND OVERNIGHT.  
BEFORE IT DOES THOUGH, ANOTHER 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WILL BE  
POSSIBLE IN THE EASTERN NORTHWEST WIND SNOWBELTS.  
 
- EYES ARE ON A FAST-HITTING CLIPPER SYSTEM THAT COULD BRING  
SOME FLUFFY LAKE ENHANCED SNOWFALL OVER PORTIONS OF THE U.P.  
LATE THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT.  
 
- ANOTHER SYSTEM COULD POTENTIALLY BRING A FEW INCHES OF SNOW  
ON MONDAY WITH LIKELY DRIER AND WARMER CONDITIONS BEHIND THE  
SYSTEM FOR CHRISTMAS EVE INTO CHRISTMAS DAY  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/
 
 
ISSUED AT 152 PM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH STRETCHING FROM HUDSON BAY SOUTHWARD TO THE  
GULF COAST HAS SUPPORTED A COLDER AIRMASS OVER THE REGION. SPC  
MESOANALYSIS SUGGESTS 850MB TEMPS BETWEEN -16 AND -11C WHILE LAKE  
SUPERIOR IS RUNNING BETWEEN +5 AND 7C, PER GLERL. THIS DIFFERENCE  
HAS BEEN MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWER  
DEVELOPMENT AND KMQT RADAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OBSERVE THESE SHOWERS  
PRESSING SOUTHEASTWARD INTO UPPER MICHIGAN THROUGH THE DAY. WHERE  
RADAR COVERAGE IS LACKING, WEBCAMS AND SURFACE OBS SUGGEST THE  
SHOWER COVERAGE IS WIDESPREAD DOWNWIND OF LAKE SUPERIOR AND INTO  
NORTHERN WISCONSIN. TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN COOLING SLIGHTLY THROUGH  
THE DAY ACROSS THE WEST HALF WHILE THE EAST HAS REMAINED STABLE IN  
THE MID TO UPPER 20S.  
 
UPSTREAM HIGH PRESSURE, CURRENTLY OVER THE EASTERN DAKOTAS AND  
NORTHERN MINNESOTA, WILL LIFT NORTHEAST INTO ONTARIO THIS EVENING,  
THEN CONTINUE PRESSING EASTWARD OVERNIGHT WHILE A CLIPPER EXITS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES AND PRESSES SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS. THIS TRANSITION SHOULD RESULT IN LAKE EFFECT TAPERING OFF  
THANKS TO INCREASING DRY AIR/SUBSIDENCE AND WINDS GRADUALLY SHIFTING  
TO THE SOUTHEAST. THE WEST HALF SHOULD SEE THIS CHANGE SOON AND  
THROUGH THE AFTERNOON/EVENING AND A MOSTLY DRY OVERNIGHT PERIOD. THE  
EAST WILL BE A LITTLE SLOWER TO SEE THESE EFFECTS AND CAN EXPECT  
CONTINUED LAKE EFFECT OVERNIGHT. ANOTHER INCH OR SO OF SNOW CAN BE  
EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT IN THE WEST. IN THE EAST,  
THE LONGER DURATION OF THE SHOWERS COULD PRODUCE 1 TO 3 INCHES IN  
THE FAVORED NORTHWEST WIND SNOWBELTS. WITH THIS IN MIND, OPTED TO  
CANCEL THE INHERITED WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES IN THE WEST AND  
MAINTAIN THE ONES IN THE EAST, FOR THE TIME BEING. THESE ARE  
CURRENTLY SET TO EXPIRE AT 6Z THURSDAY. OVERNIGHT LOWS SHOULD DIP  
INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS FOR MOST INTERIOR LOCATIONS ACROSS THE WEST  
HALF. ELSEWHERE OVERNIGHT TEMPS SHOULD FALL INTO THE TEENS TO NEAR  
+10F.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 451 AM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
BEGINNING THURSDAY, STILL SOME MODEL UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THE TRACK  
OF THE WEAKENING CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVING SE THROUGH THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS AND MIDWEST ON THURSDAY. GENERALLY PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT  
BETWEEN MOST OF THE 00Z OPERATIONAL RUNS AND CLUSTERING OF GEFS AND  
EPS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND MEANS WHICH SHOWS A CONSENSUS TRACK TAKING  
THE LOW THROUGH THE DAKOTAS AND IA REACHING NORTHERN IL BY THU  
EVENING. THE NOTABLE EXCEPTION AND OUTLIER TO THIS CONSENSUS TRACK  
IS THE LATEST 00Z NAM WHICH HAS TRENDED MUCH FARTHER NORTH WITH THE  
LOW TAKING IT THROUGH ND, CENTRAL MN AND CENTRAL WI. THE NAM  
SOLUTION IS ALSO SUSPICIOUS IN THAT SAMPLING OF THE SYSTEM'S  
SHORTWAVE FOR THE 00Z RUN WAS STILL WELL OFFSHORE OVER THE NORTHERN  
PACIFIC, WHERE THE NAM'S INSUFFICIENT SAMPLING OVER MARINE AREAS HAS  
HISTORICALLY LED TO POOR RESULTS. SIDING WITH THE MORE CONSISTENT  
GFS, ECMWF AND GEFS/EPS MEAN SOLUTIONS, MOST OF THE MODERATE TO  
POTENTIALLY HEAVIER SYSTEM SNOW WITH THE CLIPPER SHOULD STAY SOUTH  
INTO CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN WI ON THURSDAY WHERE THOSE MODELS INDICATE  
THE BETTER ISENTROPIC ASCENT WILL BE LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE  
SYSTEM'S 850 MB WARM FRONT. HOWEVER, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE  
ENOUGH WEAK FORCING ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SYSTEM TO  
GENERATE A DOMINANT N-S LAKE ENHANCED SNOW BAND OFF LAKE MI WHICH  
MODELS, PARTICULARLY THE HIGH-RES NSSL-WRF AND HRRR, SHOW COULD  
POTENTIALLY IMPACT DELTA, MENOMINEE, SCHOOLCRAFT, ALGER AND EASTERN  
MARQUETTE COUNTIES THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY NIGHT WITH  
MODERATE TO POSSIBLY HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW UNDER A DEVELOPING  
CONVERGENT S-SE SFC-850 MB WIND FLOW AND 850 MB TEMPS HOVERING AT -  
12C TO -14C. A FEW OF THE MODELS EVEN SUGGEST A LAKE ENHANCED BAND  
FORMING OVER CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR AND THEN MOVING INTO AND  
IMPACTING THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA WITH MODERATE TO OCCASIONALLY HEAVY  
LES SNOW LATE THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY  
HEADLINES WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AT SOME POINT FOR THESE  
COUNTIES THU-THU NIGHT BUT GIVEN THAT THERE STILL IS SOME MODEL  
UNCERTAINTY WITH THE FORECAST DETAILS AND ONGOING HEADLINES IN  
EFFECT TODAY WILL HOLD OFF ON ADDITIONAL HEADLINES FOR NOW.  
 
AS HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS FRIDAY  
AND BACKING N-NE SFC-850 WIND FLOW BECOMES MORE ANTICYCLONIC THROUGH  
THE DAY, EXPECT THE ASSOCIATED INCOMING SUBSIDENCE TO GREATLY  
DIMINISH THE LES ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. HOWEVER, REMNANT  
LAKE-INDUCED TROUGHING OVER THE GREAT LAKES BASIN MAY BE JUST STRONG  
ENOUGH TO ALLOW WEAK LAKE EFFECT SNOWFALL TO CONTINUE OVER THE N-NW  
WIND SNOW BELTS FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS THE THERMODYNAMIC  
PROFILE (LAKE DELTA-TS INCREASING TO THE LOWER TO MID 20S C) WILL BE  
VERY SUPPORTIVE OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW DESPITE THE RIDGING PUSHING INTO  
THE AREA. THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW LOOKS TO EVENTUALLY END LATER THIS  
WEEKEND (SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY) AS THE HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING  
FROM ONTARIO FINALLY FIGHTS ITS WAY INTO THE GREAT LAKES BASIN.  
 
EXPECT A GENERAL WARMING TREND FOR CHRISTMAS WEEK AS WARM AIR FROM  
MORE TROPICAL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC MOVES OVER THE ROCKIES AND  
DOWNSLOPES INTO THE CANADIAN AND U.S. PLAINS. THAT BEING SAID, IT  
DOES LOOK LIKE WE WILL HOLD ON TO COOLER TEMPERATURES A LITTLE  
LONGER EARLY NEXT WEEK, ENOUGH TO ALLOW ANOTHER WARM ADVECTION  
SNOWFALL EVENT TO POTENTIALLY OCCUR ON MONDAY AS A WAVE MOVING OVER  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES IS FORECAST TO TRACK THROUGH THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES. MODELS SHOWING REMARKABLY GOOD  
AGREEMENT ON THE TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM FIVE DAYS OUT, AND IF MODEL  
CONSISTENCY CONTINUES TO HOLD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MODEL RUNS  
FORECAST CONFIDENCE WILL INCREASE ON THE POTENTIAL FOR A WIDESPREAD  
FEW INCHES OF SNOW ACROSS THE U.P. ON MONDAY, INCREASING CHANCES FOR  
A WHITE CHRISTMAS OVER MUCH OF THE AREA. AFTER MONDAY'S SYSTEM  
WEAKENS AND MOVES EAST, MODELS INDICATE DRIER AND WARMER CONDITIONS  
FOR CHRISTMAS EVE INTO CHRISTMAS DAY AS WEAK RIDGING MOVES OVER THE  
AREA AND HIGH TEMPS POSSIBLY REACH AT OR ABOVE FREEZING BOTH DAYS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1229 PM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS AND CLOUD COVER WILL CONTINUE IN THIS  
PERIOD, BRINGING WITH IT TAPERING SNOW SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON,  
PRIMARILY MVFR CONDITIONS AT KCMX/KIWD/KSAW, AND GUSTY NORTHWEST  
WINDS UP TO 25KTS THIS AFTERNOON. IMPROVEMENT TO VFR IS EXPECTED  
THIS EVENING AT KSAW AND OVERNIGHT AT KIWD. THURSDAY, A SYSTEM  
MOVING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL RESULT IN INCREASED SNOW  
CHANCES THROUGH THE DAY AND A TREND TOWARD MVFR CEILINGS AND  
IFR/LIFR VISIBILITIES.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ISSUED AT 451 AM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
EXPECT NORTHWEST WINDS OF 20 TO 30 KNOTS OVER THE LAKE TODAY,  
HIGHEST EAST HALF. SOME MODERATE FREEZING SPRAY WILL LIKELY DEVELOP  
OVER CENTRAL AND EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR AS COLDER AIR DROPS DOWN FROM  
CANADA. THE FREEZING SPRAY ENDS WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS WINDS WEAKEN TO  
20 KNOTS OR LESS AGAIN DUE TO A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE MOVING THROUGH  
THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. AS A CLIPPER DROPS DOWN TOWARDS THE CHICAGO  
AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY, SECONDARY INVERTED SHORTWAVE  
TROUGHS OVER NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN AND SOUTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR  
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER MAY BE STRONG ENOUGH TO CREATE NORTHEAST  
TO NORTHERLY WINDS OF 20 TO 25 KNOTS OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR  
THURSDAY NIGHT BEFORE WEAKENING AGAIN BY FRIDAY MORNING. A SURGE OF  
ARCTIC AIR ACROSS THE LAKE COULD CAUSE N-NW WINDS TO INCREASE TO 25  
KNOTS AGAIN LATE FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT AT LEAST OVER THE EAST  
HALF OF THE LAKE BEFORE HIGH PRESSURE FIGHTS ITS WAY INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES BASIN AND WINDS DIE BACK DOWN AGAIN BLO 20 KTS FOR THE WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
UPPER MICHIGAN...  
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ006-007-  
085.  
 
LAKE SUPERIOR...  
NONE.  
LAKE MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...JTP  
LONG TERM...VOSS  
AVIATION...JTP  
MARINE...VOSS  
 
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