857  
FXUS63 KMQT 220006  
AFDMQT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI  
706 PM EST SAT DEC 21 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- A SOUTHERLY WIND LAKE EFFECT SNOWBAND WILL IMPACT EASTERN  
UPPER MI ON SUNDAY, BRINGING UP TO 4 INCHES OF SNOWFALL IN A  
NARROW BAND NEAR MANISTIQUE.  
 
- A CLIPPER SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES IS ANTICIPATED  
TO BRING WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOWFALL TO THE UP. SOME LAKE  
ENHANCEMENT OVER THE FAR EAST MAY LOCALLY BOOST TOTALS UP TO  
3-4 INCHES, RESULTING IN MINOR TRAVEL IMPACTS SUNDAY THROUGH  
MONDAY.  
 
- DRIER AND WARMER CONDITIONS EXPECTED BEHIND THE EARLY WEEK  
SYSTEM FOR CHRISTMAS EVE AND CHRISTMAS DAY.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/  
 
ISSUED AT 103 PM EST SAT DEC 21 2024  
 
GOES WATER VAPOR AND RAP ANALYSIS POSITIONS UPPER MICHIGAN WITHIN  
NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT BETWEEN MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING TO OUR EAST  
AND BROAD RIDGING TO OUR WEST. AT THE SURFACE, HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING  
STRETCHING FROM NORTHERN ONTARIO SOUTH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND  
UPPER MICHIGAN TOWARD THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY HAS KEPT  
WINDS LIGHT AND MOSTLY NORTHERLY ACROSS THE AREA. WITH 850MB TEMPS  
ANALYZED BETWEEN -18 AND -15C AND LAKE SUPERIOR NEAR +4-6C (PER  
SPC MESOANALYSIS AND GLERL RESPECTIVELY), IN ADDITION TO THE MIXED  
LAYER EXTENDING TO NEAR 5K FEET THROUGH THE DGZ, THE ENVIRONMENT HAS  
SUPPORTED HIGH SNOW RATIO LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS PRESSING SOUTH  
INTO UPPER MICHIGAN. KMQT AND CASMR RADARS LIMIT ACTIVITY MAINLY TO  
MARQUETTE COUNTY AND POINTS EASTWARD, BUT WEBCAMS HAVE SHOWN SOME  
LIGHT OFF AND ON SHOWER ACTIVITY IN THE WESTERN COUNTIES. THE  
STRONGEST BANDS HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ALONG THE LAKESHORE OF MARQUETTE  
COUNTY DOWN TO NEAR GWINN WHERE WEAK CONVERGENCE HAS SUPPORTED  
PERIODIC RADAR REFLECTIVITIES BETWEEN 30 AND 35 DBZ. THESE HIGHER  
SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN MAINLY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE RADAR IN A  
NARROW CORRIDOR APPROXIMATELY FROM HARVEY SOUTH TO LITTLE  
LAKE/GWINN BETWEEN SANDS/KSAW/GWINN AND SKANDIA/CARLSHEND. I SUSPECT  
THESE LOCATIONS COULD HAVE OBSERVED A COUPLE INCHES OF SNOW THIS  
MORNING, PARTICULARLY WHERE TERRAIN HAS SUPPORTED ADDITIONAL LIFT,  
AND THE MOST RESTRICTIVE VISIBILITIES.  
 
THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON, HIGH PRESSURE WILL SLOWLY  
MIGRATE THROUGH THE REGION, ENABLING FLOW TO BECOME SOUTHERLY.  
GUIDANCE APPEARS TO HAVE DELAYED THIS WIND SHIFT A LITTLE, SO SNOW  
SHOWERS MAY CONTINUE IN THE NORTHERN WIND SNOW BELTS INTO THE EARLY  
EVENING HOURS. AT THAT POINT, SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL HELP LIFT SHOWER  
ACTIVITY OVER LAKE SUPERIOR FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD. IF THE SHOWERS  
ARE A LITTLE SLOWER TO DIMINISH, ADDITIONAL SNOW OF AN INCH IS  
GENERALLY EXPECTED WITH LOCALIZED SNOW AMOUNTS NEAR 3 INCHES NOT  
BEING RULED OUT. WILL NEED TO MONITOR CAM, RADAR, AND SATELLITE  
TRENDS THOUGH AFTER PUBLISHING THIS TO DETERMINE IF ANOTHER SPECIAL  
WEATHER STATEMENT IS NEEDED FOR MARQUETTE COUNTY.  
 
AFTER ACTIVITY ENDS, THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD SHOULD BE MOSTLY DRY WITH  
LOWS FALLING INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS. ISOLATED SPOTS IN THE INTERIOR  
WEST MAY DIP CLOSE OR JUST BELOW ZERO. JUST PRIOR TO 12Z, SOUTHERLY  
FLOW WILL HELP TO SUPPORT LAKE EFFECT SNOW OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN/BAY  
OF GREEN BAY BY MORNING. RECENT CAMS ARE SUPPORTING A WIDER RANGE OF  
WHERE SHOWERS MAY BE EXPERIENCED. AT THIS POINT, LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS  
STREAMING NORTH MAY END UP AS FAR WEST AS ESCANABA BEFORE SUNRISE.  
IF THIS DOES OCCUR, THE THOUGHT IS FOR THESE TO MIGRATE EAST INTO  
SCHOOLCRAFT/MACKINAC COUNTIES. ANY SNOW EXPERIENCED PRIOR TO SUNRISE  
WOULD LIKELY AMOUNT TO AN INCH OR TWO OF FLUFFY SNOW.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 358 PM EST SAT DEC 21 2024  
 
THE UP EXTENDED FORECAST STARTS OFF WITH NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT AS A  
TROUGH OVER NEW ENGLAND DEPARTS EAST AND SHORTWAVES RIDE SOUTHEAST  
TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES. THAT SAID, A SFC LOW OVER THE SD/NE STATE  
LINE AND HIGH PRESSURE SHIFTING EAST TO NEW ENGLAND RESULTS IN LOW  
LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW. WHAT IS MORE UNUSUAL IS THAT UNDER THIS  
PERSISTENT SOUTH FLOW, 850MB TEMPS OVER LAKE MI WILL START AROUND  
-9C TO -12C THEN WARM TO BETWEEN -4C TO -6C FOR SUNDAY NIGHT. WITH  
MUCH OF NORTHERN LAKE MI SFC TEMPS AROUND 7C, DELTA-TS WILL RANGE  
FROM 11C TO AS HIGH AS 19C...SUFFICIENT FOR LES. PLACEMENT OF THE  
DOMINANT SNOW BAND LOOKS TO IMPACT DELTA AND SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES  
EARLIER, THEN EXPANDING NORTHEAST TO LUCE COUNTY AS WELL. SOME OF  
THE CAMS ARE YIELDING SOME TRACE/LIGHTER SNOW AMOUNTS AS FAR WEST AS  
ESCANABA EARLIER IN THE DAY, SO THERE SOME WIGGLE ROOM YET IN  
PLACEMENT OF BEST LES. MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW INITIAL MOISTURE  
INHABITING A FEW KFT OF THE DGZ, RESULTING IN A SLR AROUND MID TO  
UPPER TEENS:1. AS THE DAY PROGRESSES, WARMING RAISES THE DGZ HEIGHT  
AND DIMINISHES THE MOISTURE WITHIN THE DGZ. AS A RESULT, SLRS LOWER  
TO AROUND 10:1 FOR SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. IN ADDITION, A WEAK  
SHORTWAVE AND WAA RIPPLING OVER NORTHERN WI MAY RESULT IN SOME  
FLURRIES IN THE CENTRAL UP SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING AHEAD OF THE  
SFC LOW.  
 
SYSTEM SNOW BEGINS TO RAMP UP SUNDAY NIGHT WITH AN APPROACHING SFC  
LOW FROM THE WEST. THE BETTER DYNAMIC SUPPORT LOOKS TO MAINLY REMAIN  
SOUTH OF THE UP OVER WI/LOWER MI, BUT SOME WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOW IS  
EXPECTED UP TO 2" ACROSS THE UP (HIGHEST SOUTH CENTRAL AND EAST).  
ADDITIONAL LAKE ENHANCEMENT OFF LAKE MI IS LIKELY WITH THIS SYSTEM,  
YIELDING UP TO 3-4" OF SNOW OVER AREAS IN SCHOOLCRAFT AND LUCE  
COUNTIES. BETWEEN THE LES AND SYSTEM SNOW, SOME WINTER WEATHER  
ADVISORIES MAY BE NEEDED FOR THE EAST. OPTED TO HOLD OFF FOR NOW  
GIVEN THE LES BAND IS STILL SHIFTING AROUND AND SFC LOW TRACK ALSO  
HAS SOME SPREAD IN TRACK. SOME TRAILING LAKE ENHANCED SNOW OFF LAKE  
SUPERIOR FOR THE NORTH HALF OF UPPER MI IS POSSIBLE (15-30%) MONDAY  
AFTERNOON AND EVENING, BUT ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE LOW (<1") WITH A  
LESS THAN IDEAL THERMODYNAMIC PROFILE.  
 
DRY WEATHER RETURNS BY TUESDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE DESCENDS OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES. A PATTERN OF MAINLY MID LEVEL RIDGING RETURNING THE  
EASTERN CONUS BRINGS WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPS BACK TO THE REGION.  
HOW LONG THE DRY PERIOD LASTS EARLY NEXT WEEK WILL DEPEND ON WHEN  
THE NEXT SHORTWAVE MOVES THROUGH. GUIDANCE SPREADS QUICKLY WITH  
SHORTWAVE TIMING AND TRACK AS WELL AS LATER SYSTEMS IN THE WEEK, BUT  
THERE IS A CONSENSUS ON A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING NORTHEAST  
THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES LATE NEXT WEEK/EARLY NEXT WEEKEND.  
WITH HIGHS WARMING WELL INTO THE 30S TO POSSIBLY LOW 40S WITH LOWS  
LIFTING TO NEAR FREEZING BY THEN, THE PRIMARY P-TYPE MOVING FORWARD  
WILL BE RAIN. THIS ALONGSIDE DEW POINTS LIFTING TO NEAR FREEZING  
LATE NEXT WEEK WILL RESULT IN MELTING SOME OF THE SNOWPACK IN THE  
COMING DAYS. THAT SAID, MUCH OF THE UP SHOULD STILL HAVE SOME SNOW  
ON THE GROUND FOR CHRISTMAS. A RETURN OF COLDER AIR LOOKS TO HOLD  
OFF UNTIL THE NEW YEAR.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 705 PM EST SAT DEC 21 2024  
 
SFC HIGH PRES RIDGE EXTENDING N TO S ACROSS CENTRAL UPPER MI WILL  
CONTINUE SHIFTING E THIS EVENING. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE HIGH, LAKE  
EFFECT STRATOCU (MVFR CIGS) HAS ALREADY CLEARED OUT TO VFR AT IWD.  
CMX WILL CLEAR OUT TO VFR AT THE START OF THIS FCST PERIOD OR WITHIN  
THE FIRST HOUR. BOTH CMX AND IWD WILL THEN REMAIN VFR THRU THE END  
OF THIS FCST PERIOD. AT SAW, MVFR CIGS SHOULD CLEAR OUT BY 02Z, BUT  
WITH LOW-LEVEL WINDS BECOMING SOUTHERLY INSTEAD OF SW TO W, THE  
CLEAR OUT TO VFR MAY END UP BEING DELAYED FOR AN HOUR TWO LONGER.  
THEREAFTER, EXPECT VFR TO PREVAIL AT SAW THRU END OF THE FCST  
PERIOD. TIGHTENING PRES GRADIENT ON SUN DUE TO APPRAOCHING LOW PRES  
TROF WILL RESULT IN GUSTY SOUTHERLY WIND TO AROUND 20KT AT ALL  
TERMINALS BY AFTN.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
ISSUED AT 358 PM EST SAT DEC 21 2024  
 
SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT AS HIGH  
PRESSURE SHIFTS TOWARD THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND A LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. SOUTH WINDS OF 20-30 KTS ARE  
EXPECTED ON SUNDAY WITH THE INCREASED PRESSURE GRADIENT ACROSS THE  
LAKE. STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE LAKE  
WHERE THERE IS A 15% OR LESS CHANCE FOR GALES TO 35+ KTS. THESE  
WINDS BUILD WAVES UP TO 5-8 OVER THE NORTHEAST, MAINLY NORTH OF THE  
INTERNATIONAL BORDER SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. WINDS WEAKEN TO 15-25  
KTS SUNDAY NIGHT AS THEY GRADUALLY VEER SOUTHWEST, BUT QUICKLY  
BECOME NORTHWEST BEHIND A FRONTAL BOUNDARY EARLY ON MONDAY. WINDS  
MAINLY HOLD 20 KTS OR LESS MONDAY ONWARD AS THE LOW DEPARTS FROM THE  
GREAT LAKES AND HIGH PRESSURE RETURNS, BUT TURN SOUTHERLY FOR THE  
BACK HALF OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
UPPER MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
LAKE SUPERIOR...  
NONE.  
LAKE MICHIGAN...  
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...JTP  
LONG TERM...JABLONSKI  
AVIATION...ROLFSON  
MARINE...JABLONSKI  
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