154  
WTNT43 KNHC 290248  
TCDAT3  
 
TROPICAL STORM RINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 3  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL182023  
1100 PM AST THU SEP 28 2023  
 
THE FUTURE FOR RINA HAS NOT BECOME ANY CLEARER DURING THE PAST  
SEVERAL HOURS. THE CYCLONE IS MORE OR LESS UNCHANGED SINCE THE LAST  
ADVISORY, WITH ITS CENTER STILL GENERALLY EXPOSED TO THE NORTHWEST  
OF THE ASSOCIATED DEEP CONVECTION. THE INTENSITY REMAINS 35 KT BASED  
ON RECENT OPERATIONAL SAB, TAFB, AND UW-CIMSS ADT ESTIMATES.  
 
DURING THE PAST DAY OR SO, THE GUIDANCE HAS FLIP-FLOPPED OVER  
WHETHER RINA OR NEARBY TROPICAL STORM PHILIPPE WILL BECOME DOMINANT.  
WHILE RINA APPEARS TO BE THE BETTER ORGANIZED OF THE TWO AT THE  
MOMENT, THE LATEST RUNS OF MOST MODELS INDICATE THAT PHILIPPE IS  
MORE LIKELY TO BECOME THE DOMINANT CYCLONE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. UNTIL  
THE FORECAST BECOMES MORE CONSISTENT, IT APPEARS PRUDENT TO MAKE  
ONLY VERY SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES TO THE OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST.  
THEREFORE, BOTH THE INTENSITY AND TRACK FORECASTS ARE VERY SIMILAR  
TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY, BUT CONFIDENCE IN THE NHC FORECAST IS  
UNUSUALLY LOW.  
 
RINA IS HEADING NORTHWESTWARD INTO AN AREA OF STRONGER EXPECTED  
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. A COMBINATION OF THE CIRCULATION OF PHILIPPE  
AND A RIDGE CENTERED OVER THE EASTERN SUBTROPICAL ATLANTIC SHOULD  
KEEP RINA GENERALLY ON A WEST-NORTHWEST TO NORTHWEST HEADING FOR AT  
LEAST A FEW DAYS. AFTER THAT, IF RINA DEEPENS OR AT LEAST MAINTAINS  
ITS CURRENT STRENGTH AND STRUCTURE, IT COULD BEGIN TO LIFT  
NORTHWARD. HOWEVER, IF IT WEAKENS, RINA OR ITS REMNANTS WILL LIKELY  
TURN WESTWARD BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE WIND SHEAR SHOULD PREVENT RINA  
FROM STRENGTHENING MUCH, AND COULD EVENTUALLY LEAD TO ITS  
DISSIPATION IN AS SOON AS 4 OR 5 DAYS. THE NHC TRACK FORECAST IS  
BASED HEAVILY ON A BLEND OF THE PREVIOUS NHC FORECAST WITH THE ECMWF  
AND GFS ENSEMBLE MEANS, WHILE THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE  
IVCN CONSENSUS.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 29/0300Z 18.4N 46.6W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 29/1200Z 19.1N 47.3W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 30/0000Z 19.6N 48.3W 45 KT 50 MPH  
36H 30/1200Z 19.9N 49.4W 45 KT 50 MPH  
48H 01/0000Z 20.4N 50.7W 40 KT 45 MPH  
60H 01/1200Z 21.0N 52.4W 35 KT 40 MPH  
72H 02/0000Z 22.0N 54.1W 35 KT 40 MPH  
96H 03/0000Z 24.5N 57.0W 30 KT 35 MPH  
120H 04/0000Z 27.0N 57.0W 30 KT 35 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER D. ZELINSKY  
 
 
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