389  
WTPZ41 KNHC 090246  
TCDEP1  
 
TROPICAL STORM MAX DISCUSSION NUMBER 5  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP162023  
1000 PM CDT SUN OCT 08 2023  
 
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SIXTEEN-E HAS STRENGTHENED INTO TROPICAL STORM  
MAX. VISIBLE AND INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY THIS EVENING INDICATES  
THAT THE SYSTEM MAINTAINS A WELL-DEFINED CENTER, WHICH WAS FURTHER  
CONFIRMED BY RECENT AMSR-2 AND SSMIS MICROWAVE PASSES.  
ADDITIONALLY, DEEP CONVECTION, WHICH WAS ONLY LOOSELY ORGANIZED  
OVER A LARGE AREA FOR MOST OF THE DAY, HAS INCREASED IN INTENSITY  
TONIGHT IN A CONCENTRATED AREA TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE CENTER.  
SUBJECTIVE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB HAVE INCREASED, AND  
OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES FROM UW-CIMSS ALSO SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN  
INTENSITY SINCE THE PRIOR ADVISORY. THUS, THE INITIAL INTENSITY FOR  
THIS ADVISORY IS SET AT 35 KT.  
 
MAX IS CONTINUING TO MOVE NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD AT 340/5 KT. THE  
STORM IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY TURN NORTHWARD AND EVENTUALLY  
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. THE PRIMARY STEERING  
INFLUENCES ARE A MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CARIBBEAN SEA TO THE  
STORM'S EAST, AND TROPICAL STORM LIDIA TO ITS WEST. MAX IS EXPECTED  
TO MAKE LANDFALL IN THE NEXT 24 H OR SO, ALTHOUGH SOME UNCERTAINTY  
REMAINS IN THE EXACT TIMING AND LOCATION, WITH GLOBAL MODELS  
DIFFERING IN THE FORWARD SPEED. REGARDLESS OF THE EXACT TIMING AND  
LANDFALL LOCATION, TROPICAL STORM IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR FAR  
FROM THE LANDFALL LOCATION. THE CURRENT NHC FORECAST REPRESENTS A  
BLEND OF THE TVCN AND HCCA CONSENSUS AIDS, AND IT IS SLIGHTLY WEST  
OF THE PRIOR FORECAST.  
 
THE CURRENT INTENSITY FORECAST INDICATES INTENSIFICATION PRIOR TO  
LANDFALL IN MEXICO. SOME OF THE DYNAMICAL MODELS INDICATE  
INTENSIFICATION IN THE NEXT 12-24 H, BUT WITH LIMITED TIME  
BEFORE LANDFALL AND MODERATE EASTERLY WIND SHEAR THAT WILL PERSIST  
THROUGH TOMORROW, THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN A TROPICAL  
STORM AT LANDFALL. AFTER LANDFALL, MAX IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN RAPIDLY  
AS IT INTERACTS WITH THE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN OF SOUTHERN MEXICO.  
HOWEVER, THIS INTERACTION OF THE STORM'S CIRCULATION WITH THE  
TERRAIN IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN HEAVY RAINFALL AS THE STORM  
DISSIPATES AND ITS REMNANTS CONTINUE MOVING INLAND ON TUESDAY. THE  
NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR FORECAST AND IS ON  
THE HIGH END OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. MAX IS FORECAST TO BRING TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS TO PORTIONS  
OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO ON MONDAY WHERE A TROPICAL STORM  
WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINS FROM THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY PRODUCE FLASH AND URBAN  
FLOODING, ALONG WITH POSSIBLE MUDSLIDES IN AREAS OF HIGHER TERRAIN  
ACROSS THE STATES OF GUERRERO, MICHOACAN AND COASTAL SECTIONS OF  
WESTERN OAXACA.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 09/0300Z 16.3N 101.9W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 09/1200Z 17.0N 102.0W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 10/0000Z 17.8N 101.9W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 10/1200Z 18.6N 101.6W 20 KT 25 MPH...INLAND  
48H 11/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER HOGSETT/BROWN  
 
 
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