988  
WTNT45 KNHC 190255  
TCDAT5  
 
TROPICAL STORM TAMMY DISCUSSION NUMBER 2  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL202023  
1100 PM AST WED OCT 18 2023  
 
TAMMY'S CENTER REMAINS DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT THIS EVENING. WHILE A  
PERSISTENT AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION CONTINUES TO BE PRESENT NEAR AND  
TO THE SOUTH OF THE ESTIMATED CENTER, AN SSMIS MICROWAVE PASS THAT  
CAME IN AFTER THE PRIOR ADVISORY SUGGESTED THE TROPICAL STORM STILL  
HAS POOR STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATION WITH SOME VERTICAL TILT. IT IS  
POSSIBLE THE CENTER REMAINS SOMEWHAT ELONGATED OR IT COULD BE  
ATTEMPTING TO REDEVELOP FURTHER INTO THE DEEP CONVECTION. THE  
INITIAL INTENSITY WILL REMAIN 35 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY, IN BEST  
AGREEMENT WITH THE TAFB SUBJECTIVE INTENSITY ESTIMATE AT 00 UTC.  
DATA FROM NOAA-P3 AND AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE MISSIONS, SET TO  
TAKE OFF TOMORROW, WILL BE HELPFUL TO BETTER DIAGNOSE TAMMY'S  
STRUCTURE.  
 
THE MOTION CONTINUES TO BE MORE UNCERTAIN THAN USUAL GIVEN THE  
CURRENT STRUCTURE. THE TROPICAL STORM STILL APPEARS TO BE MOVING  
WESTWARD, BUT IS STARTING TO SLOW DOWN AT 270/15 KT. A  
WELL-ESTABLISHED MID-LEVEL RIDGE IS STEERING TAMMY WESTWARD  
CURRENTLY, BUT IT IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY ERODE AS A SHARP  
MID-LATITUDE TROUGH SWINGS OFF THE EASTERN U.S. SEABOARD IN THE NEXT  
COUPLE OF DAYS. THE NET RESULT OF THIS PATTERN CHANGE IS THAT TAMMY  
IS FORECAST TO SLOW DOWN AND BEGIN TURNING GRADUALLY POLEWARD TOWARD  
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND NORTHWEST IN THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS. BEYOND THAT  
TIME, TAMMY IS FORECAST TO MOVE NORTHWARD AND MAY BEGIN TO RECURVE  
INTO THE OPEN ATLANTIC BY THE END OF THE FORECAST. AS MENTIONED  
PREVIOUSLY, THE GUIDANCE GENERALLY AGREES ON THIS SCENARIO, BUT  
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TRACK DETAILS RELATED TO THE MODEL-DEPICTED  
VERTICAL DEPTH OF TAMMY AND HOW SHARP OF A TURN NORTHWARD THE STORM  
MAKES. THERE ARE ALSO ALONG-TRACK DIFFERENCES TOO, WITH THE ECMWF  
MUCH FASTER THAN THE LATEST GFS FORECAST. COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS  
CYCLE, THE GUIDANCE HAS SHIFTED EASTWARD AND IS A BIT SLOWER TOO,  
AND THE NHC TRACK WAS SHIFTED IN THAT DIRECTION, ROUGHLY IN BETWEEN  
THE CONSENSUS AIDS HCCA AND TVCN.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS SOMEWHAT TRICKY. SHIPS DIAGNOSED SHEAR  
FROM THE GFS AND ECMWF IS CURRENTLY LIGHT TO MODERATE, BETWEEN 10-20  
KT OUT OF THE NORTHWEST. THE GFS-BASED SHIPS SUGGESTS THIS SHEAR  
COULD EVEN LOWER SOME OVER THE NEXT 24-48 H. THE LOWER SHEAR,  
COMBINED WITH VERY WARM 29-30 C SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES COULD  
POTENTIALLY PROMOTE SIGNIFICANT INTENSIFICATION. HOWEVER, THE  
POTENTIAL FOR ANY INTENSIFICATION IS DEPENDENT ON THE STORM  
STRUCTURE, WHICH REMAINS MORE UNCERTAIN THAN USUAL GIVEN THE LACK OF  
RECENT HIGH RESOLUTION MICROWAVE OR SCATTEROMETER DATA. TO ADD TO  
THE UNCERTAINTY, THE MOST RECENT HAFS-A/B RUNS SHOW LITTLE TO NO  
INTENSIFICATION, AND IN FACT APPEAR TO LOSE THE VORTEX IN THEIR  
INNER-NEST BEYOND 24 HOURS. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST CONTINUES TO  
SHOW INTENSIFICATION TO AROUND 55 KT OVER THE NEXT 36 H, BUT ONLY  
MORE GRADUAL INTENSIFICATION THEREAFTER, ASSUMING THAT MODERATE  
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR WILL KEEP THE STORM IN CHECK. THIS FORECAST IS  
NEAR OR JUST ABOVE THE CONSENSUS AIDS. HOWEVER, THIS COULD END UP ON  
THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE IF TAMMY IS ABLE TO BECOME MORE VERTICALLY  
ALIGNED IN THE SHORT-TERM, AS SUGGESTED BY THE LATEST GFS AND HWRF  
FORECASTS.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE  
LESSER ANTILLES BEGINNING ON FRIDAY. TROPICAL STORM WATCHES ARE  
CURRENTLY IN EFFECT FOR BARBADOS, DOMINICA, MARTINIQUE, AND  
GUADELOUPE, AND ADDITIONAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE  
REQUIRED ON THURSDAY.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINS FROM TAMMY WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT THE NORTHERN  
WINDWARD AND LEEWARD ISLANDS ON FRIDAY, SPREADING INTO THE BRITISH  
AND U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS AND PUERTO RICO OVER THE WEEKEND. THIS  
RAINFALL MAY PRODUCE ISOLATED FLASH AND URBAN FLOODING, ALONG WITH  
ISOLATED MUDSLIDES IN AREAS OF HIGHER TERRAIN.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 19/0300Z 13.0N 53.1W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 19/1200Z 13.2N 55.0W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 20/0000Z 13.7N 56.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 20/1200Z 14.3N 58.6W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 21/0000Z 15.4N 60.3W 55 KT 65 MPH  
60H 21/1200Z 16.8N 61.6W 60 KT 70 MPH  
72H 22/0000Z 18.4N 62.5W 60 KT 70 MPH  
96H 23/0000Z 22.0N 63.4W 70 KT 80 MPH  
120H 24/0000Z 27.5N 60.0W 70 KT 80 MPH  
 

 
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