523  
WTPZ44 KNHC 300249  
TCDEP4  
 
TROPICAL STORM PILAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 6  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP192023  
1000 PM CDT SUN OCT 29 2023  
 
A SMALL BUT CONCENTRATED CONVECTIVE BURST HAS BEEN PERSISTING NEAR  
THE ESTIMATED CENTER OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE TONIGHT. AFTER THE  
PRIOR ADVISORY, WE RECEIVED A FORTUITOUS GPM MICROWAVE PASS VALID  
AT 2252 UTC THAT SUGGESTED THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION MAY HAVE  
TIGHTENED UP SOME BUT WAS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE DEEPEST  
CONVECTION. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES WERE UP TO T2.5/35  
KT FORM TAFB AND T2.0/30 KT FROM SAB. THE OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES FROM  
ADT, SATCON, AND D-PRINT/MINT ARE ALL BETWEEN 34-36 KT, AND THUS THE  
LATEST ADVISORY IS SET AT 35 KT THIS ADVISORY, UPGRADING TD19-E TO  
TROPICAL STORM PILAR.  
 
A MORE PRONOUNCED EAST-NORTHEASTWARD MOTION APPEARS TO BE STARTING,  
ESTIMATED AT 060/4 KT. A CONTINUED MOTION TO THE EAST-NORTHWEST IS  
ANTICIPATED OVER THE NEXT 24-48 HOURS AS PILAR'S PRIMARY STEERING  
INFLUENCES ARE AN EQUATORIAL RIDGE SOUTH OF THE STORM PROVIDING  
DEEP-LAYER WESTERLIES IN ADDITION TO A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL CUTOFF  
LOW OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN THAT IS INTERRUPTING THE MORE  
TYPICAL RIDGING THAT WOULD BE PRESENT TO THE NORTH OVER MEXICO. THE  
GUIDANCE IS IN GENERAL AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO, BUT HOW FAR EAST  
THE TROPICAL STORM GETS IN THE NEXT 48 H REMAINS UNCERTAIN, WITH THE  
LATEST HWRF AND HAFS-B RUNS FAR ENOUGH EAST TO AFFECT THE GULF OF  
FONSECA WITH TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS. FOR THIS REASON, THE  
TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN EXTENDED EASTWARD TO PORTIONS OF THE  
PACIFIC COAST OF HONDURAS AND NICARAGUA THIS ADVISORY. ON TUESDAY,  
PILAR IS EXPECTED TO STALL AND MOVE VERY SLOWLY AS LOW TO MID-LEVEL  
RIDGING ATTEMPTS TO BUILD BACK IN TO THE NORTH OF THE TROPICAL  
CYCLONE AND A STRONG COLD FRONT INDUCES A SIGNIFICANT GAP WIND FLOW  
EVENT IN THE GULF OF TEHUANTEPEC. BY THE MIDDLE OF THIS WEEK, THE  
ENHANCED LOW-LEVEL FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIDGE AND GAP WINDS ARE  
FORECAST TO PUSH PILAR AWAY FROM CENTRAL AMERICA TO THE  
WEST-SOUTHWEST AS A WEAKENING TROPICAL STORM. AS DISCUSSED  
PREVIOUSLY, THE CONFIDENCE OF WHEN OR HOW SHARP THIS TURN AWAY FROM  
CENTRAL AMERICA WILL BE IS LOW GIVEN THE INCONSISTENT MODEL GUIDANCE  
OVER THE PAST DAY. THE NHC TRACK THIS CYCLE IS JUST A BIT CLOSER TO  
THE COAST AND A TOUCH EAST OF THE PRIOR TRACK, BUT IS ROUGHLY IN  
BETWEEN THE TVCE AND HCCA CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
A SMALL CORE MAY BE STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE GIVEN THE EARLIER  
MICROWAVE IMAGERY, AND THE PERSISTENT AREA OF CONVECTION THAT PILAR  
HAS BEEN MAINTAINING OVER THE LAST 3-6 HOURS NEAR THE ESTIMATED  
CENTER. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THIS SMALL CORE STRUCTURE  
WITH INTENSIFICATION WHILE THE STORM REMAINS EMBEDDED IN MODERATE  
(15-20 KT) EASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR BUT IS OVER WARM 28-29 C  
SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN A MOIST MID-LEVEL AIR ENVIRONMENT. THE  
LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST STILL TAKES PILAR TO NEAR HURRICANE  
INTENSITY IN 36 H, ON THE HIGHER END OF THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE BUT  
NOT FAR OFF THE HURRICANE-REGIONAL GUIDANCE SOLUTIONS. AFTERWARDS,  
IT SEEMS LIKELY A COMBINATION OF THE DRY MID-LATITUDE GAP-WIND FLOW  
IN ADDITION TO POSSIBLE COOL UPWELLING OF THE SHALLOW WARM WATERS  
DUE TO SLOW MOTION NEAR THE COAST OF CENTRAL AMERICA COULD BEGIN A  
WEAKENING TREND. IF THE LATEST HWRF AND HAFS-B RUNS END UP BEING  
CORRECT, LAND INTERACTION COULD ALSO RESULT IN WEAKENING. THE  
INTENSITY FORECAST BEYOND 48 H IS A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE PRIOR  
ADVISORY, AS IT IS LOOKING MORE LIKELY THAT A COMBINATION OF  
MODERATE SHEAR AND ADDITIONAL DRY STABLE AIR COULD PREVENT THE STORM  
FROM RE-INTENSIFYING EVEN AFTER IT BEGINS TO MOVE BACK OVER WARMER  
OCEAN WATERS AWAY FROM ITS OWN COLD WAKE.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. HEAVY RAINS FROM THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION WILL PRODUCE FLASH AND  
URBAN FLOODING, ALONG WITH MUDSLIDES IN AREAS OF HIGHER TERRAIN  
ALONG THE PACIFIC COAST OF CENTRAL AMERICA, INCLUDING EL SALVADOR,  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
2. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE BY EARLY TUESDAY INTO  
WEDNESDAY ALONG PORTIONS OF THE PACIFIC COAST OF EL SALVADOR,  
HONDURAS, AND NICARAGUA WHERE A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS NOW IN  
EFFECT. INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ALONG THE PACIFIC COAST OF GUATEMALA,  
AND NICARAGUA SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM AS  
ADDITIONAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS COULD BE NEEDED TOMORROW.  
 
3. SWELLS GENERATED BY THE DEPRESSION WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT PORTIONS  
OF THE PACIFIC COAST OF CENTRAL AMERICA, INCLUDING EL SALVADOR,  
BEGINNING ON MONDAY. THESE SWELLS ARE LIKELY TO CAUSE  
LIFE-THREATENING SURF AND RIP CURRENT CONDITIONS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 30/0300Z 11.0N 92.0W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 30/1200Z 11.2N 91.3W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 31/0000Z 11.6N 90.2W 55 KT 65 MPH  
36H 31/1200Z 12.0N 89.4W 60 KT 70 MPH  
48H 01/0000Z 12.3N 88.9W 55 KT 65 MPH  
60H 01/1200Z 12.0N 88.9W 45 KT 50 MPH  
72H 02/0000Z 11.2N 89.7W 35 KT 40 MPH  
96H 03/0000Z 9.9N 93.0W 35 KT 40 MPH  
120H 04/0000Z 9.0N 97.5W 35 KT 40 MPH  
 

 
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