926  
WTPZ44 KNHC 040240  
TCDEP4  
 
TROPICAL STORM PILAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 26  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP192023  
900 PM MDT FRI NOV 03 2023  
 
PILAR IS NOT MUCH TO LOOK AT TONIGHT. THE DEEP CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY  
NEAR THE CENTER HAS BEEN ON A DOWNWARD SWING, THOUGH THERE ARE A FEW  
CONVECTIVE CLUSTERS STARTING TO REDEVELOP CLOSE TO THE ESTIMATED  
LOW-LEVEL CENTER. AN EARLIER AMSR2 MICROWAVE PASS ON THE 37-GHZ  
CHANNEL ALSO SUGGESTED THAT, COMPARED TO YESTERDAY, THE LOW-LEVEL  
BANDING FEATURES HAVE BECOME MORE DIFFUSE. SATELLITE INTENSITY  
ESTIMATES CONTINUE TO RANGE FROM 30 TO 40 KT, AND GIVEN THE EARLIER  
SCATTEROMETER DATA, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 40 KT, THOUGH  
THIS MAY BE GENEROUS.  
 
SMALL PILAR SEEMS TO BE STRUGGLING IN ITS CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, WHICH  
IS HONESTLY NOT ALL THAT UNFAVORABLE, WITH LIGHT TO MODERATE  
WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, AND PLENTY WARM SEA-SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES. HOWEVER, THE PROXIMITY OF NEARBY DRY AIR SURROUNDING  
THE STORM HAS CONTINUED TO PERIODICALLY SNUFF OUT ITS CONVECTION,  
PREVENTING MUCH ORGANIZATION. THUS, THE FORECAST CONTINUES TO SHOW  
THE STORM MAINTAINING ITS CURRENT INTENSITY, ASSUMING DRY AIR WILL  
CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SMALL CYCLONE IN CHECK. AFTER 36 H, SHEAR  
BEGINS TO INCREASE FURTHER, AND WEAKENING AFTER THAT POINT IS  
FORECASTED. THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST SHOW PILAR WEAKENING  
INTO A REMNANT LOW BY 72 H WITH DISSIPATION BY 120 H, BUT BOTH OF  
THESE STATUSES COULD OCCUR SOONER THAN FORECAST, AS SUGGESTED BY THE  
ECMWF MODEL.  
 
PILAR CONTINUES TO MOVE SOUTH OF DUE WEST, WITH AN INITIAL MOTION OF  
260/15 KT. A WELL-ESTABLISHED MID-LEVEL RIDGE LOCATED NORTH OF THE  
STORM SHOULD CONTINUE TO STEER THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WESTWARD FOR THE  
NEXT FEW DAYS, THOUGH WITH GRADUAL SLOWING OF ITS FORWARD MOTION AS  
THE RIDGE BEGINS TO BECOME ERODED BY A DEEP-LAYER TROUGH LOCATED  
NEAR THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. THIS SHOULD ULTIMATELY RESULT IN  
A BIT MORE POLEWARD MOTION IN PILAR INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. ONCE  
AGAIN, THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRACK SPREAD, MOSTLY RELATED TO  
HOW VERTICALLY DEEP PILAR REMAINS IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE. THE GFS  
CONTINUES TO BE STEADFAST IN MAINTAINING PILAR AS A VERTICALLY DEEP  
CYCLONE, AND TURNS THE SYSTEM MORE NORTHWESTWARD AS THE TROUGH  
WEAKNESS DEVELOPS. THE ECWMF (AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF ITS  
ENSEMBLES) ULTIMATELY DECOUPLE ITS MID-LEVEL CIRCULATION FROM THE  
LOW-LEVEL ONE, RESULTING IN A FASTER AND MORE WESTWARD TRACK. THE  
NHC TRACK FORECAST FAVORS THE LATTER SCENARIO, WHICH ALSO IS CLOSER  
TO THE TVCN AND HCCA CONSENSUS AIDS. THIS FORECAST IS JUST A TOUCH  
FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST COMPARED TO THE PRIOR ONE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/0300Z 9.9N 106.2W 40 KT 45 MPH  
12H 04/1200Z 9.7N 108.3W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 05/0000Z 9.9N 111.0W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 05/1200Z 10.5N 113.2W 40 KT 45 MPH  
48H 06/0000Z 11.1N 114.9W 35 KT 40 MPH  
60H 06/1200Z 11.8N 116.5W 35 KT 40 MPH  
72H 07/0000Z 12.4N 117.6W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
96H 08/0000Z 14.0N 119.8W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
120H 09/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
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