611  
WTPZ44 KNHC 042034  
TCDEP4  
 
TROPICAL STORM PILAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 29  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP192023  
300 PM MDT SAT NOV 04 2023  
 
PILAR CONTINUES TO EXHIBIT A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST PATTERN, AND  
OUTER BANDING FEATURES HAVE BECOME A LITTLE BETTER DEFINED DURING  
THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS. THE LATEST DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND  
SAB HAVE INCREASED TO 3.0/45 KT. HOWEVER, AN ASCAT-B PASS FROM A  
FEW HOURS AGO SHOWED PEAK WINDS AROUND 35 KT OVER A SMALL AREA IN  
THE NORTHWESTERN QUADRANT. BASED ON A COMPROMISE OF THESE DATA, THE  
INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 40 KT, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT PILAR  
COULD BE A LITTLE STRONGER.  
 
THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR SOMEWHAT CONDUCIVE FOR  
STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO, AND THE MODELS GENERALLY  
SHOW A LITTLE INCREASE IN PILAR'S WINDS DURING THAT TIME. BY EARLY  
MONDAY, HOWEVER, THE STORM WILL BE MOVING INTO AN AREA OF STRONG  
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND NOTABLY DRIER AIR. THESE FACTORS SHOULD  
RESULT IN A WEAKENING TREND, AND PILAR WILL LIKELY BECOME A REMNANT  
LOW LATE MONDAY OR EARLY TUESDAY. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS A  
TOUCH HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE IN THE SHORT TERM, AND LIES NEAR  
THE MIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.  
 
PILAR IS MOVING WESTWARD AT 14 KT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF A  
MID-LEVEL RIDGE. A TURN TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND THEN THE  
NORTHWEST WITH A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED ARE FORECAST  
AS THE RIDGE BREAKS DOWN. ALTHOUGH THE MODELS GENERALLY AGREE ON  
THE LARGE-SCALE PATTERN, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ON HOW  
VERTICALLY DEEP PILAR WILL BE, WHICH AFFECTS HOW MUCH LATITUDE THE  
STORM GAINS. THE GFS REMAINS THE MODEL ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE WHILE  
THE ECMWF IS ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE. SINCE PILAR IS  
EXPECTED TO WEAKEN EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE NHC TRACK FORECAST CONTINUES  
TO FAVOR THE LEFT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE, IN BEST AGREEMENT  
WITH THE ECMWF AND HCCA MODELS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/2100Z 10.4N 110.5W 40 KT 45 MPH  
12H 05/0600Z 10.6N 112.0W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 05/1800Z 11.1N 113.8W 45 KT 50 MPH  
36H 06/0600Z 11.8N 115.2W 40 KT 45 MPH  
48H 06/1800Z 12.7N 116.3W 35 KT 40 MPH  
60H 07/0600Z 13.6N 117.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 07/1800Z 14.6N 118.7W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
96H 08/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER CANGIALOSI  
 
 
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