909  
WTPZ44 KNHC 050838  
TCDEP4  
 
TROPICAL STORM PILAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 31  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP192023  
200 AM MST SUN NOV 05 2023  
 
PILAR HASN'T CHANGED MUCH IN IN ORGANIZATION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL  
HOURS. THE STORM CONTINUES TO HAVE SOME CONVECTIVE BANDING  
FEATURES ALONG WITH A SOMEWHAT RAGGED-LOOKING CENTRAL DENSE  
OVERCAST. CLOUD TOPS CONTINUE TO BE QUITE COLD, AT -70 DEG C OR  
COLDER, AND THE UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW PATTERN ALSO REMAINS FAIRLY  
WELL DEFINED. THE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE IS HELD AT 45 KT IN  
AGREEMENT WITH SUBJECTIVE DVORAK VALUES FROM TAFB AND SAB, AS WELL  
AS OBJECTIVE AI-ADT ESTIMATES FROM UW-CIMSS. ASCAT SCATTEROMETER  
DATA FROM A FEW HOURS AGO SUGGEST THAT THIS ESTIMATE MAY BE A BIT  
GENEROUS, SINCE THAT INSTRUMENT SHOWED SOMEWHAT LOWER WIND SPEEDS.  
HOWEVER IT IS ASSUMED THAT THERE WAS SOME UNDERSAMPLING BY ASCAT OF  
THE MAXIMUM WINDS IN THIS SMALL TROPICAL CYCLONE.  
 
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER THE CYCLONE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN FAIRLY  
LOW TODAY, AND THIS ALONG WITH A WARM OCEAN COULD ALLOW FOR A  
LITTLE MORE SHORT-TERM STRENGTHENING. IN 24 HOURS AND BEYOND,  
HOWEVER, THE DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE SHOWS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN  
SHEAR AS PILAR BEGINS TO ENCOUNTER STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW  
ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH TO ITS NORTHWEST. THIS  
INCREASED SHEAR SHOULD CAUSE WEAKENING, AND THE SYSTEM IS  
LIKELY TO BE REDUCED TO A REMNANT LOW PRESSURE AREA IN 2 TO 3  
DAYS, OR POSSIBLY SOONER. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS  
SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS ALSO CLOSE TO THE MODEL  
CONSENSUS.  
 
A WESTWARD MOTION CONTINUES FOR NOW, AT A SLOWER FORWARD SPEED OF  
AROUND 10 KT. OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO, THE MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE  
NORTH OF PILAR IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN DUE TO THE INFLUENCE OF A LOW  
JUST TO THE WEST OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. AS A RESULT,  
THE SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO TURN WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD  
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS OR SO. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS  
SOMEWHAT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS NHC PREDICTION, BUT IS STILL  
NEAR THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE SUITE. THIS IS FAIRLY CLOSE  
TO THE LATEST SIMPLE AND CORRECTED DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS  
TRACKS.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 05/0900Z 10.6N 112.1W 45 KT 50 MPH  
12H 05/1800Z 11.0N 113.2W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 06/0600Z 11.6N 114.2W 45 KT 50 MPH  
36H 06/1800Z 12.5N 115.1W 40 KT 45 MPH  
48H 07/0600Z 13.8N 116.3W 30 KT 35 MPH  
60H 07/1800Z 15.2N 117.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 08/0600Z 16.5N 118.7W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
96H 09/0600Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER PASCH  
 
 
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