263  
WTPZ44 KNHC 052033  
TCDEP4  
 
TROPICAL STORM PILAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 33  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP192023  
200 PM MST SUN NOV 05 2023  
 
JUST AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY, PILAR'S CENTER  
POPPED OUT FROM BENEATH THE CONVECTIVE OVERCAST AND IS NOW LOCATED  
AT LEAST 150 N MI TO THE SOUTHWEST OF AN ONGOING CLUSTER OF DEEP  
CONVECTION. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK CI NUMBERS FROM TAFB AND SAB ARE NOW  
DOWN TO 2.0/30 KT AND 2.5/35 KT, RESPECTIVELY, AND OBJECTIVE  
ESTIMATES HAVE FALLEN TO BETWEEN 35-40 KT. BASED ON THESE DATA,  
PILAR'S INITIAL INTENSITY IS LOWERED TO 35 KT. STRENGTHENING  
WESTERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR IS ALREADY TAKING ITS TOLL ON  
PILAR, AND ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS ARE ONLY EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE  
HOSTILE OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS NEAR  
THE LOW END OF THE GUIDANCE, MOST CLOSELY FOLLOWING THE SHIPS,  
LGEM, AND GFS SOLUTIONS, AND SHOWS PILAR BECOMING A REMNANT LOW BY  
36 HOURS. SINCE THE STORM REMAINS OVER WARM WATERS AROUND 29  
DEGREES CELSIUS, THE FORECAST ALLOWS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF  
CONVECTIVE REDEVELOPMENT NEAR THE CENTER TONIGHT OR ON MONDAY. BUT  
IF THIS DOES NOT OCCUR, PILAR COULD BECOME POST-TROPICAL AS EARLY  
AS TONIGHT. THE REMNANT LOW IS FORECAST TO DISSIPATE IN ABOUT 3  
DAYS.  
 
WITH THE CENTER BECOMING MORE APPARENT EARLIER THIS MORNING, IT'S  
CLEAR THAT A WESTWARD MOTION HAS CONTINUED (NOW ESTIMATED TO BE  
275/9 KT). THE DYNAMICAL MODELS ARE NOT HANDLING PILAR'S CURRENT  
MOTION WELL AT ALL SINCE NEARLY ALL OF THEM SHOW AN IMMEDIATE  
NORTHWESTWARD TURN, AND AS A RESULT, THE NHC TRACK FORECAST IS  
ALONG THE LEFT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE AND LEANS TOWARD THE  
SHALLOW TRAJECTORY AND BETA MODEL (TABS), ESPECIALLY IN THE SHORT  
TERM. THIS NEW PREDICTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY WEST OF THE PREVIOUS  
FORECAST DUE TO THE ADJUSTED INITIAL POSITION, AND ACCOUNTING FOR  
PILAR'S RECENT MOTION.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 05/2100Z 10.6N 114.3W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 06/0600Z 11.1N 115.3W 35 KT 40 MPH  
24H 06/1800Z 11.7N 116.2W 30 KT 35 MPH  
36H 07/0600Z 12.5N 117.2W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
48H 07/1800Z 13.7N 118.3W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
60H 08/0600Z 15.0N 119.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 08/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER BERG  
 
 
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