679  
WTPZ45 KNHC 232049  
TCDEP5  
 
HURRICANE JOHN DISCUSSION NUMBER 6  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP102024  
300 PM CST MON SEP 23 2024  
 
JOHN CONTINUES TO RAPIDLY STRENGTHEN. THE LATEST SUBJECTIVE DVORAK  
INTENSITY ESTIMATES RANGE FROM 65 TO 77 KT, WHILE THE LATEST  
OBJECTIVE INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER, IN THE 79 TO 90  
KT RANGE. ON INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY, THE AREA OF COLD CLOUD  
TOPS CONTINUES TO GROW, AND THE INNER CORE IS BECOMING MORE  
SYMMETRIC. THE LATEST VISIBLE IMAGES HAVE SHOWN HINTS OF A SMALL  
EYE, THAT HAS BECOME A LITTLE MORE APPARENT IN THE LAST FEW HOURS.  
BASED ON THE ABOVE DATA AND RECENT SATELLITE TRENDS, THE INITIAL  
INTENSITY IS INCREASED TO 85 KT, MAKING JOHN A CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE.  
 
ENVIRONMENTAL PARAMETERS CONTINUE TO BE RIPE FOR ADDITIONAL RAPID  
INTENSIFICATION, WITH VERY WARM OCEAN TEMPERATURES, WEAK VERTICAL  
WIND SHEAR AND A MOIST ATMOSPHERE. THE ONLY POTENTIAL LIMITING  
FACTOR COULD BE HOW JOHN MIGHT INTERACT WITH THE MOUNTAINOUS  
TOPOGRAPHY OF MEXICO AS THE HURRICANE APPROACHES THE COASTLINE. THE  
DSHIPS AND LGEM STATISTICAL INTENSITY MODELS REMAIN AT THE HIGHER  
END OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE AND SHOW JOHN BECOMING A MAJOR  
HURRICANE AS IT APPROACHES THE COAST. THE EC SHIPS RAPID INTENSITY  
INDEX IS DEPICTING A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF CONTINUED RAPID  
INTENSIFICATION OVER NEXT 12 HOURS. THE LATEST NHC FORECAST IS NEAR  
THE HIGH END OF THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE AND CONTINUES TO SHOW JOHN  
STRENGTHENING TO A 105-KT HURRICANE. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT JOHN COULD  
PEAK EVEN HIGHER THAN SHOWN BELOW BETWEEN THE 12 H FORECAST POINT  
AND WHEN IT REACHES THE COAST.  
 
JOHN CONTINUES TO MOVE DUE NORTHWARD, NOW AT 5 KT. THE CURRENT  
MOTION AND THE LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE HAS AGAIN NECESSITATED A  
WESTWARD TRACK SHIFT TO THE NHC FORECAST. GIVEN THE UPDATED TRACK  
FORECAST, THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO HAS EXTENDED THE HURRICANE  
WARNING WESTWARD.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. JOHN IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE RAPIDLY INTENSIFYING, AND IS  
FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE  
COAST OF SOUTHERN MEXICO WITHIN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA TONIGHT  
OR EARLY TUESDAY. DAMAGING HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS AND A  
LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE ARE EXPECTED WITHIN PORTIONS OF THE  
HURRICANE WARNING AREA.  
 
2. JOHN WILL BRING VERY HEAVY RAINFALL TO COASTAL PORTIONS OF  
SOUTHERN MEXICO THROUGH THIS WEEK. THIS HEAVY RAINFALL WILL LIKELY  
CAUSE SIGNIFICANT AND POSSIBLY CATASTROPHIC, LIFE-THREATENING FLASH  
FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES TO THE MEXICAN STATES OF CHIAPAS, OAXACA, AND  
SOUTHEAST GUERRERO, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS NEAR THE COAST.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 23/2100Z 15.5N 98.5W 85 KT 100 MPH  
12H 24/0600Z 16.0N 98.3W 105 KT 120 MPH  
24H 24/1800Z 16.5N 98.3W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND  
36H 25/0600Z 16.7N 98.4W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND  
48H 25/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER HAGEN  
 
 
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