595  
WTPZ45 KNHC 251456  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM JOHN DISCUSSION NUMBER 11  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP102024  
900 AM CST WED SEP 25 2024  
 
JOHN HAS REFORMED NEAR THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO. THE  
CIMSS-UW SATELLITE VORTICITY ANALYSES SHOW REMNANTS OF VORTICITY,  
LIKELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE MID-LEVEL CIRCULATION OF JOHN, HAVE  
MERGED WITH A LARGER SOURCE OF VORTICITY FROM THE MONSOON TROUGH.  
CONVECTION HAS GRADUALLY BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED BASED ON  
GEOSTATIONARY INFRARED AND VISIBLY IMAGERY. AN AMSR2 MICROWAVE PASS  
AT 0807 UTC SHOWED CURVED BANDING NEAR THE SURFACE, INDICATING A  
WELL-DEFINED SURFACE CENTER. A DVORAK CLASSIFICATION FROM TAFB HAS  
GIVEN JOHN A 2.0/35 KT AND THAT IS THE INITIAL INTENSITY FOR THIS  
ADVISORY.  
 
THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR JOHN TO STRENGTHEN  
IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO, AS LONG AS THE CIRCULATION STAYS OVER WATER.  
GLOBAL MODELS SHOW THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR REMAINING  
WEAK-TO-MODERATE, AMPLE MID-LEVEL MOISTURE, AND VERY WARM SEA  
SURFACE TEMPERATURES. STATISTICAL GUIDANCE EVEN SUGGESTS THERE IS  
AN ABOVE AVERAGE POSSIBILITY FOR STRONG-TO-RAPID INTENSIFICATION.  
THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST SHOWS JOHN REACHING A PEAK  
INTENSITY OF 55 KT IN 24 H, WHICH IS NEAR THE HCCA INTENSITY AID AND  
AT THE TOP OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE. HOWEVER, THERE IS A CHANCE  
JOHN MAY BECOME A HURRICANE PRIOR TO LANDFALL.  
 
THE TROPICAL STORM IS MEANDERING EASTWARD IN THE MONSOONAL FLOW WITH  
AN ESTIMATE MOTION OF 80/2 KT. MODELS INDICATE THAT JOHN WILL  
GRADUALLY TURN TOWARDS THE NORTH LATER TODAY AND ACCELERATE SLIGHTLY  
TOWARDS THE COAST ON THURSDAY. REGIONAL AND GLOBAL MODELS VARY THE  
TIMING OF LANDFALL, WITH THE GFS AND GFS-BASED HURRICANE MODELS  
SHOWING JOHN AT THE COAST BY TOMORROW EVENING AND THE ECMWF  
LINGERING OFFSHORE UNTIL FRIDAY. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST CALLS  
FOR LANDFALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN AND SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO ON  
THURSDAY EVENING, HOWEVER, THERE IS UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS  
TIMING. A HURRICANE WATCH AND TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAVE BEEN  
ISSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO FOR PORTIONS OF THE COAST OF  
SOUTHERN MEXICO AND INTERESTS THERE SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR FUTURE  
FORECASTS FOR UPDATES.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM JOHN WILL BRING ADDITIONAL VERY HEAVY RAINFALL TO  
COASTAL PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST MEXICO THROUGH FRIDAY. THE ADDITIONAL  
RAINFALL TOTALS WILL BE FALLING ACROSS AREAS THAT HAVE RECEIVED VERY  
HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS. THIS HEAVY RAINFALL  
WILL LIKELY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT AND CATASTROPHIC, LIFE-THREATENING  
FLASH FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES TO THE MEXICAN STATES OF GUERRERO,  
OAXACA, COASTAL CHIAPAS, AND COASTAL MICHOACA.  
 
2. JOHN IS FORECAST TO STRENGTHEN BEFORE LANDFALL, AND A HURRICANE  
WATCH AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF  
THE COASTLINE OF SOUTHERN AND SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO, WHERE TROPICAL  
STORM CONDITIONS COULD BEGIN LATER TODAY.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 25/1500Z 16.2N 101.4W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 26/0000Z 16.3N 101.2W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 26/1200Z 16.7N 101.1W 55 KT 65 MPH  
36H 27/0000Z 17.3N 101.1W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 27/1200Z 17.8N 101.2W 30 KT 35 MPH  
60H 28/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 
 
FORECASTER BUCCI/R. ZELINSKY  
 
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