679  
WTPZ45 KNHC 261439  
TCDEP5  
 
HURRICANE JOHN DISCUSSION NUMBER 15  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP102024  
900 AM CST THU SEP 26 2024  
 
JOHN CONTINUES TO DEPICT A SMALL INNER CORE, WITH EARLIER MICROWAVE  
IMAGES DEPICTING A SMALL EYE FEATURE. SINCE THAT MICROWAVE PASS, THE  
EYE FEATURE HAS BECOME MORE PREVALENT ON INFRARED IMAGERY. THE  
UW-CIMSS OBJECTIVE INTENSITY GUIDANCE RANGES FROM 65 TO 75 KT. THE  
SUBJECTIVE SATELLITE ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB ARE BOTH 65 KT,  
RESPECTIVELY. USING A BLEND OF THE INTENSITY ESTIMATES AND THE  
CONTINUED IMPROVED SATELLITE DEPICTION, THE INTENSITY IS SET AT 65  
KT FOR THIS ADVISORY.  
 
THE HURRICANE IS ESTIMATED TO BE MOVING NORTHWESTWARD AT 310/5 KT.  
THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT IN THE NEAR  
TERM, WHICH FOLLOWS RECENT SATELLITE TRENDS AND LIES NEAR THE LATEST  
HCCA CONSENSUS AID. ON THE FORECAST TRACK, THE CENTER OF JOHN IS  
FORECAST TO APPROACH AND MOVE ALONG THE COAST OF SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO  
OR JUST INLAND LATER TODAY. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE GLOBAL MODEL FIELDS  
DO LINGER THE SYSTEM OFFSHORE NEAR THE COAST A LITTLE LONGER,  
PARTICULARLY THE ECMWF GLOBAL MODEL. IN THE LONG TERM, A TURN BACK  
TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS ANTICIPATED AS THE SYSTEM WEAKENS AND IS  
STEERED BY THE RIDGE OVER NORTHERN MEXICO.  
 
THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT REMAINS FAVORABLE FOR JOHN TO CONTINUE TO  
STRENGTHEN UNTIL LANDFALL WITH VERY WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES,  
LOW WIND SHEAR, ABUNDANT MOISTURE THROUGHOUT ALL LEVELS OF THE  
ATMOSPHERE. THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST CONTINUES TO CALL FOR  
STRENGTHENING UP UNTIL LANDFALL AND SHOWS A PEAK INTENSITY OF 75 KT,  
WHICH IS SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN PREVIOUS INTENSITY PEAK DUE TO THE  
LATEST FORECAST SHOWING THE SYSTEM MOVING INLAND A LITTLE FASTER  
THAN THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.  
 
JOHN HAS VERY LARGE RAIN SHIELD AND FLOODING IMPACTS WILL EXTEND  
WELL OUTSIDE WHERE THE SYSTEM MAKES LANDFALL. IT CANNOT BE  
EMPHASIZED ENOUGH THAT CATASTROPHIC LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODING  
AND MUDSLIDES ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK  
FOR PORTIONS OF THE MEXICAN STATES OF GUERRERO, OAXACA AND  
MICHOACAN.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. HURRICANE JOHN WILL BRING ADDITIONAL VERY HEAVY RAINFALL TO  
COASTAL PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST MEXICO THROUGH FRIDAY. THE ADDITIONAL  
RAINFALL TOTALS WILL BE FALLING ACROSS AREAS THAT HAVE RECEIVED VERY  
HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS. THIS HEAVY RAINFALL  
WILL LIKELY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT AND CATASTROPHIC LIFE-THREATENING  
FLASH FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES TO THE MEXICAN STATES OF GUERRERO AND  
MICHOACáN.  
 
2. JOHN IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE STRENGTHENING UP UNTIL LANDFALL, AND  
A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE COASTLINE OF SOUTHWESTERN  
MEXICO, WHERE TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE IMMINENT. TROPICAL  
STORM WARNINGS ARE ALSO IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA AND  
TROPICAL STORM ARE ONGOING.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 26/1500Z 17.5N 102.7W 65 KT 75 MPH  
12H 27/0000Z 18.0N 102.9W 75 KT 85 MPH...NEAR COAST  
24H 27/1200Z 18.6N 103.4W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND  
36H 28/0000Z 19.2N 104.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND  
48H 28/1200Z 19.8N 105.4W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
60H 29/0000Z 20.5N 107.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 29/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER KELLY  
 
 
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