402  
WTNT42 KNHC 020856  
TCDAT2  
 
SUBTROPICAL STORM PATTY DISCUSSION NUMBER 1  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL172024  
900 AM GMT SAT NOV 02 2024  
 
THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT THE NHC HAS BEEN MONITORING OVER THE  
NORTHERN ATLANTIC HAS GRADUALLY ACQUIRED SUBTROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS  
DURING THE PAST 12-24 H. THE LOW HAS BECOME DETACHED FROM FRONTS AND  
HAS A SHALLOW WARM-CORE STRUCTURE, THOUGH IT REMAINS WITHIN A COOLER  
AIRMASS BEHIND A COLD FRONT OVER THE EASTERN ATLANTIC. DESPITE SSTS  
AROUND 21 DEG C, INSTABILITY ALOFT HAS ALLOWED THE SYSTEM TO SUSTAIN  
SOME MODERATE CONVECTION THAT WRAPS MOST OF THE WAY AROUND ITS  
CENTER IN GEOSTATIONARY AND PASSIVE MICROWAVE IMAGES. SINCE THE  
WIND FIELD IS ASYMMETRIC AND THE SYSTEM REMAINS CO-LOCATED WITH AN  
UPPER-LEVEL LOW, IT SEEMS BEST CLASSIFIED AS A SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE,  
WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH ST2.5 CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB. THUS, THE  
NHC IS INITIATING ADVISORIES ON SUBTROPICAL STORM PATTY. EARLIER  
PARTIAL SCATTEROMETER DATA SHOWED 35-40 KT WINDS IN THE SOUTHERN  
SEMICIRCLE, AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 45 KT SINCE IT DOES  
NOT APPEAR THE STRONGEST WINDS WERE SAMPLED BY THE INSTRUMENT.  
 
PATTY IS MOVING EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD AT 105/7 KT. THE TRACK GUIDANCE  
IS IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT PATTY WILL MOVE FASTER TOWARD THE  
EAST-SOUTHEAST THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY, BRINGING THE CENTER NEAR OR  
OVER PORTIONS OF THE AZORES. THEN, A TURN TOWARD THE EAST AND  
EAST-NORTHEAST IS EXPECTED THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK AS PATTY IS  
STEERED BY AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH. THE NHC TRACK FORECAST LIES NEAR  
THE CENTER OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE, GENERALLY BETWEEN THE SIMPLE  
AND CORRECTED CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED TODAY, AND PATTY IS FORECAST  
TO BE A FAIRLY SHORT-LIVED SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS IS BECAUSE  
WESTERLY SHEAR IS FORECAST TO INCREASE OVER THE SYSTEM DURING THE  
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, WHICH WILL LIKELY MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE  
SYSTEM TO SUSTAIN CONVECTION NEAR AND AROUND ITS CENTER. DUE TO ITS  
INCREASING FORWARD SPEED, THE STRONGEST WINDS OF PATTY SHOULD  
GENERALLY REMAIN OVER THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION DURING  
ITS LIFETIME. GIVEN THE NON-TROPICAL ORIGINS OF THIS SYSTEM, THE  
NHC INTENSITY FORECAST LEANS MORE HEAVILY ON THE GFS AND ECMWF  
GLOBAL MODELS, WHICH LIE ON THE LOWER END OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 02/0900Z 39.9N 34.4W 45 KT 50 MPH  
12H 02/1800Z 39.1N 31.3W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 03/0600Z 38.2N 27.3W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 03/1800Z 38.0N 23.3W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
48H 04/0600Z 38.7N 19.1W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
60H 04/1800Z 39.8N 15.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 05/0600Z 41.3N 11.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
96H 06/0600Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER REINHART  
 
 
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