978  
WTNT42 KNHC 030232  
TCDAT2  
 
SUBTROPICAL STORM PATTY DISCUSSION NUMBER 4  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL172024  
300 AM GMT SUN NOV 03 2024  
 
THE CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE OF PATTY HAS CHANGED SOME OVER THE PAST  
SEVERAL HOURS AS THE CENTER PASSES JUST SOUTH OF THE CENTRAL  
AZORES. WHILE THE CLOUD TOPS HAVE COOLED, THE CONVECTION IS NOW  
MAINLY TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER, AND THE OVERALL CLOUD PATTERN  
IS ELONGATED SOUTH-TO-NORTH. THE SYSTEM REMAINS EMBEDDED IN A  
DEEP-LAYER COLD AIR MASS, WITH SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN THE AZORES  
CURRENTLY BELOW 20C. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES HAVE DECREASED  
A LITTLE DUE TO THE DECREASED CONVECTIVE SYMMETRY, AND THIS IS THE  
BASIS FOR LOWERING THE INITIAL INTENSITY TO 50 KT.  
 
PATTY IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS THE PARENT  
UPPER-LEVEL LOW DECAYS TO AN OPEN TROUGH, LEAVING THE STORM IN  
STRONGER SHEAR. WHILE THIS HAPPENS, IT SHOULD ALSO MOVE INTO A  
DRIER AND MORE STABLE AIRMASS. THIS COMBINATION IS EXPECTED TO  
CAUSE THE CONVECTION TO DISSIPATE BY 36 H, WITH THE STORM BECOMING  
A POST-TROPICAL LOW AT THAT TIME. THE LATEST GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE  
SUGGESTS THAT THE REMNANT LOW IS LIKELY TO DECAY TO A TROUGH BY 72  
H, SO THE NEW INTENSITY FORECAST NOW CALLS FOR DISSIPATION BY THEN.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 095/17 KT. THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLY  
FLOW IS EXPECTED TO STEER THE CYCLONE EASTWARD FOR 12-24 H,  
FOLLOWED BY AN EAST-NORTHEASTWARD MOTION. THE MODELS REMAIN IN  
FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT, AND THE FORECAST TRACK IS AGAIN NEAR THE  
MIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE AZORES THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND, WHERE TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT.  
 
2. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE AZORES THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 03/0300Z 37.9N 27.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 03/1200Z 37.6N 24.7W 45 KT 50 MPH  
24H 04/0000Z 37.6N 20.8W 45 KT 50 MPH  
36H 04/1200Z 38.5N 16.6W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
48H 05/0000Z 40.1N 12.7W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
60H 05/1200Z 41.6N 9.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 06/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER BEVEN  
 
 
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