477  
WTNT42 KNHC 040236  
TCDAT2  
 
TROPICAL STORM PATTY DISCUSSION NUMBER 8  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL172024  
300 AM GMT MON NOV 04 2024  
 
PATTY HAS CONTINUED PRODUCING DEEP CONVECTION SINCE THE TIME OF THE  
PREVIOUS ADVISORY, ALTHOUGH THE CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE HAS RECENTLY  
DEGRADED SLIGHTLY ON THE LATEST INFRARED IMAGES. THE INFRARED  
SATELLITE IMAGES AND AN 03/2138 UTC ASCAT PASS DEPICT A MORE COMPACT  
CYCLONE WITH A CONFINED RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS THAN EARLIER IN THE  
SYSTEM'S LIFE. PATTY IS ALSO NO LONGER CO-LOCATED WITH THE  
UPPER-LEVEL LOW THAT WAS EARLIER RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS HYBRID  
CHARACTERISTICS. BASED ON THESE OBSERVATIONS, PATTY HAS MADE THE  
TRANSITION INTO A TROPICAL STORM. THE EARLIER ASCAT PASS SHOWED  
TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS AS HIGH AS 39 KT IN THE SOUTHERN  
SEMICIRCLE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS THEREFORE HELD AT 40 KT.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION OF THE TROPICAL STORM IS ESTIMATED TO BE  
EASTWARD, OR 085/17 KT. PATTY IS EXPECTED TO TURN  
EAST-NORTHEASTWARD OVER THE NEXT DAY, AND ONLY A SLIGHT NORTHWARD  
ADJUSTMENT WAS MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST, CLOSER TO THE LATEST  
TRACK CONSENSUS GUIDANCE.  
 
ALL GUIDANCE INSISTS PATTY WILL WEAKEN SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THE NEXT  
DAY OR TWO AS THE CYCLONE ENCOUNTERS PROGRESSIVELY COLDER  
SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES, STRONGER VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND DRIER  
AIR. ALTHOUGH THE TIMING OF WHEN PATTY IS FORECAST TO LOSE ITS  
CONVECTION AND BECOME POST-TROPICAL HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK SLIGHTLY,  
CONFIDENCE IS FAIRLY HIGH THAT THE SYSTEM WILL BE FALLING APART AND  
WEAKENING IN A DAY OR TWO. THE VARIOUS GLOBAL MODELS AGREE THAT  
PATTY SHOULD OPEN UP INTO A TROUGH AND DISSIPATE BY HOUR 48, AROUND  
THE TIME THAT THE CIRCULATION REACHES THE WEST COAST OF THE IBERIAN  
PENINSULA. DUE TO OROGRAPHIC LIFTING, SOME RAINFALL IMPACTS APPEAR  
POSSIBLE FOR PORTIONS OF PORTUGAL AND SPAIN FROM PATTY'S REMNANTS.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. BETWEEN LATE MONDAY AND TUESDAY, HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS  
OF PORTUGAL AND WESTERN SPAIN IS POSSIBLE FROM PATTY OR ITS  
REMNANTS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/0300Z 37.7N 20.0W 40 KT 45 MPH  
12H 04/1200Z 38.4N 16.7W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 05/0000Z 39.8N 12.8W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
36H 05/1200Z 41.0N 10.0W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
48H 06/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER HAGEN  
 
 
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