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WTNT43 KNHC 040258  
TCDAT3  
 
POTENTIAL TROPICAL CYCLONE EIGHTEEN DISCUSSION NUMBER 2  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL182024  
1000 PM EST SUN NOV 03 2024  
 
THE CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE OF THE SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL  
CARIBBEAN SEA HAS NOT BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED THIS EVENING.  
CURRENT SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IS CLUSTERED IN TWO REGIONS  
TO THE SOUTH AND NORTHEAST OF THE ESTIMATED CENTER. THE CENTER  
ITSELF REMAINS QUITE BROAD AND LACKS DISTINCT BANDING FEATURES, AS  
SEEN ON AN EARLIER GMI MICROWAVE PASS AT 2219 UTC. GIVEN THE LACK OF  
IMPROVEMENT FROM THIS AFTERNOON, THE SYSTEM REMAINS A POTENTIAL  
TROPICAL CYCLONE (PTC), WITH AN INITIAL INTENSITY AT 30 KT. AN AIR  
FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS IN ROUTE TO SAMPLE THE SYSTEM  
TONIGHT, AND WE SHOULD SOON ALSO RECEIVE AN ASCAT-B SCATTEROMETER  
PASS TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON ITS STRUCTURE AND INTENSITY.  
 
MY BEST GUESS IS THAT THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO MOVE SLOWLY NORTHWARD  
THIS EVENING, WITH A CURRENT MOTION A FAIRLY UNCERTAIN 360/5 KT.  
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, A LARGE MID-LEVEL RIDGE CURRENTLY  
PARKED NORTH OF THE SYSTEM OFF THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST SHOULD  
SHIFT A LITTLE EASTWARD AND BUILD FARTHER SOUTHEASTWARD TOWARDS  
HISPANIOLA. THE RESULT OF THIS SYNOPTIC PATTERN SHOULD CAUSE PTC18  
TO TURN NORTHWESTWARD AND GRADUALLY ACCELERATE AS IT MOVES INTO THE  
NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN. THIS MOTION SHOULD BRING THE SYSTEM NEAR  
JAMAICA BY MONDAY EVENING AND THE CAYMAN ISLANDS ON TUESDAY EVENING.  
THIS NORTHWESTWARD TRACK SHOULD CONTINUE, LIKELY BRINGING THE SYSTEM  
OVER CUBA AND ULTIMATELY INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO IN 72  
H. AFTER THAT TIME, THE TRACK GUIDANCE BEGINS TO DIVERGE, WITH  
NOTABLE ECMWF ENSEMBLE CROSS-TRACK SPREAD IN THE  
SOUTHWEST-TO-NORTHEAST DIRECTION OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO. SOME OF  
THIS TRACK SPREAD IS RELATED TO HOW FAST A MID-LATITUDE CUTOFF LOW  
OVER THE FOUR CORNERS REGION OF THE U.S. EJECTS OUT INTO THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS. THIS FEATURE WILL PLAY A ROLE IN HOW MUCH THE MID-LEVEL  
RIDGING AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM BECOMES ERODED WHEN IT EMERGES INTO THE  
GULF OF MEXICO. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS A LITTLE SLOWER COMPARED TO  
THE PREVIOUS CYCLE, AND THE NHC TRACK FORECAST IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT  
SLOWER THIS ADVISORY, WHILE NUDGED JUST A HAIR TO THE WEST OF THE  
PRIOR FORECAST AT THE END OF PERIOD. HOWEVER, FORECAST CONFIDENCE ON  
THE TRACK IN THE 96-H AND 120-H TIME-FRAME IS LOWER THAN USUAL.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS ALSO UNCERTAIN, BECAUSE HOW MUCH THE  
SYSTEM IS ABLE TO INTENSIFY WILL BE DETERMINED BY ITS EVOLVING  
STRUCTURE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN  
THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN ARE FORECAST TO BE QUITE FAVORABLE, WITH  
SHIPS GUIDANCE INDICATING VERTICAL WIND SHEAR REMAINING 10 KT OR  
LOWER WHILE TRAVERSING VERY WARM 29-30 C SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES  
FOR THE NEXT 48-60 H. SUCH AN ENVIRONMENT COULD FAVOR RAPID  
INTENSIFICATION, AS SOME OF THE REGIONAL-HURRICANE MODEL GUIDANCE  
AIDS WERE SUGGESTING EARLIER TODAY. HOWEVER, THIS EVOLUTION DEPENDS  
ON WHEN OR IF THE SYSTEM IS ABLE TO DEVELOP AN INNER-CORE, AND THE  
CURRENT POOR STRUCTURE ARGUES AGAINST SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE  
SHORT-TERM. ASSUMING THE SYSTEM DOES ULTIMATELY DEVELOP A BETTER  
ALIGNED VORTEX, MORE SIGNIFICANT INTENSIFICATION IS FORECAST IN THE  
24-60 H TIME FRAME, AND THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST STILL SHOWS THE  
SYSTEM BECOMING A HURRICANE IN THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN. AFTER  
PTC18 CROSSES CUBA INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO, THE FORECAST ENVIRONMENT  
BECOMES LESS FAVORABLE, WITH INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR AND  
DECREASING SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES, THOUGH THIS ENVIRONMENT IS  
QUITE DEPENDENT ON THE FORECAST TRACK. THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY  
FORECAST IS QUITE SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR ONE, SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE  
BETWEEN THE MORE AGGRESSIVE HURRICANE-REGIONAL MODELS, AND MORE  
SUBDUED GLOBAL MODEL AND STATISTICAL-DYNAMICAL AIDS.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. THE DISTURBANCE IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A TROPICAL STORM MONDAY AND  
PASS NEAR JAMAICA ON MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY WHERE A TROPICAL STORM  
WARNING IS IN EFFECT. THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO BECOME A HURRICANE  
BY TUESDAY NIGHT AND THERE IS A RISK OF DANGEROUS IMPACTS FROM  
HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS AND STORM SURGE IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS AND  
PORTIONS OF CUBA.  
 
2. INTERESTS IN CUBA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR  
THIS SYSTEM AS HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WATCHES COULD BE  
REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THESE AREAS ON MONDAY.  
 
3. THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO ENTER THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO LATER  
THIS WEEK, BUT GIVEN SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTIES IN THE LONG-RANGE  
FORECAST TRACK AND INTENSITY, IT IS TOO SOON TO DETERMINE WHAT, IF  
ANY, IMPACTS COULD OCCUR. RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA SHOULD REGULARLY  
MONITOR UPDATES TO THE FORECAST.  
 
4. THE SYSTEM WILL BRING AREAS OF HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE  
WESTERN CARIBBEAN, INCLUDING JAMAICA AND THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN  
PORTIONS OF CUBA THROUGH MID-WEEK. FLOODING COULD OCCUR OVER  
PORTIONS OF JAMAICA AND CUBA, WITH MUDSLIDES POSSIBLE. HEAVY  
RAINFALL COULD THEN SPREAD NORTHWARD INTO FLORIDA AND ADJACENT  
AREAS OF THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES DURING THE MIDDLE TO LATE  
PORTIONS OF THE WEEK.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/0300Z 13.3N 76.9W 30 KT 35 MPH...POTENTIAL TROP CYCLONE  
12H 04/1200Z 14.2N 76.9W 35 KT 40 MPH...TROPICAL CYCLONE  
24H 05/0000Z 16.0N 77.6W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 05/1200Z 17.9N 78.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
48H 06/0000Z 19.8N 80.9W 60 KT 70 MPH  
60H 06/1200Z 21.8N 82.9W 70 KT 80 MPH  
72H 07/0000Z 23.5N 84.5W 65 KT 75 MPH  
96H 08/0000Z 25.5N 87.0W 65 KT 75 MPH  
120H 09/0000Z 26.5N 89.0W 55 KT 65 MPH  
 

 
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