930  
WTNT43 KNHC 050852  
TCDAT3  
 
TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE DISCUSSION NUMBER 3  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032025  
500 AM EDT SAT JUL 05 2025  
 
THE DEPRESSION HAS BEEN SHOWING SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION OVERNIGHT,  
WITH A SIGNIFICANT BURST OF DEEP CONVECTION CURRENTLY SEEN ON  
GOES-19 INFRARED IMAGERY ON THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE TROPICAL  
CYCLONE. HOWEVER, THE CENTER OF THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION APPEARS TO  
STILL BE DISPLACED WESTWARD FROM THIS BURST, ESTIMATED TO BE ON THE  
EDGE OF THE LARGER CIRRUS PLUME. AN EARLIER SCATTEROMETER PASS  
RECEIVED JUST AFTER THE PRIOR ADVISORY INDICATED THE PEAK WINDS WERE  
UP TO 32 KT, SO THE DEPRESSION MAY BE CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM  
STRENGTH. FOR NOW THOUGH, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS BEING HELD AT 30  
KT BLENDING THE LOWER SUBJECTIVE AND HIGHER OBJECTIVE DVORAK  
INTENSITY ESTIMATES. AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE MISSION IS  
SCHEDULED TO SAMPLE THE SYSTEM LATER THIS MORNING AND SHOULD PROVIDE  
MORE IN-SITU INFORMATION ABOUT THE CYCLONE LATER TODAY.  
 
THE DEPRESSION CONTINUES TO MEANDER THIS MORNING, WITH MY BEST GUESS  
AT AN ESTIMATED MOTION TO BE AT 030/2-KT. THE TRACK FORECAST IN THE  
SHORT-TERM IS SOMEWHAT TRICKY, SINCE THE LOPSIDED NATURE OF THE  
CONVECTION WITH THE SYSTEM SUGGESTS THAT THERE COULD BE SOME CENTER  
REFORMATIONS/RELOCATIONS TO THE NORTH AND/OR EAST LATER TODAY.  
THEREAFTER, THE MAIN STEERING FEATURES ARE A MID-TO-UPPER LEVEL LOW  
OVER THE NORTHEASTERN GULF, AND A NARROW MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE  
NORTHEAST OF THE DEPRESSION. THEIR COMBINED INFLUENCE SHOULD RESULT  
IN A GENERAL NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK OVER THE NEXT 24-36 H. THE  
TRACK GUIDANCE THIS CYCLE HAS COME IN FURTHER EAST THIS RUN,  
SOMEWHAT IN RESPONSE TO THE ADJUSTED INITIAL POSITION. THE NHC TRACK  
FORECAST HAS BEEN SHIFTED EASTWARD IN RESPONSE TO THIS SHIFT IN THE  
GUIDANCE, FAVORING THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF (EMXI) OVER THE GFS  
(AVNI), BUT IT IS NOT AS FAR WEST AS SOME OF THE TRACK AIDS,  
INCLUDING THE GOOGLE DEEP MIND ENSEMBLE MEAN (GDMI) AND EUROPEAN  
DETERMINISTIC AIFS (EAII).  
 
THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER THE SYSTEM IS PROBABLY THE MOST  
UNFAVORABLE IT WILL BE AS THE SYSTEM REMAINS OVER THE WARM GULF  
STREAM WATERS. IN FACT, BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF-BASED SHIPS GUIDANCE  
SHOWS THE CURRENT SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR DECREASING FROM 20 KT  
CURRENTLY TO MORE LIKE 10-15 KT OVER THE NEXT 24 H. HOWEVER, THERE  
IS SOME DRY MID-LEVEL AIR LURKING TO EAST THAT MIGHT TEMPER MORE  
ROBUST INTENSIFICATION. ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, ASSUMING THE  
DEPRESSION BECOMES BETTER ALIGNED VERTICALLY, AT LEAST SOME MODEST  
INTENSIFICATION SHOULD OCCUR, AND THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST  
STILL SHOWS A PEAK INTENSITY OF 40 KT BEFORE THE SYSTEM MOVES INLAND  
OVER SOUTH CAROLINA ON SUNDAY MORNING. WHILE THIS FORECAST IS ON THE  
UPPER END OF THE INTERPOLATED INTENSITY GUIDANCE, THE RAW OUTPUT  
FROM BOTH THE 00Z HAFS-A AND HAFS-B HAVE A PEAK INTENSITY A LITTLE  
ABOVE THAT VALUE IN 24 H. AFTER LANDFALL, THE CYCLONE SHOULD WEAKEN  
AND IS FORECAST TO BECOME POST-TROPICAL IN ABOUT 48 H. IT IS A  
LITTLE UNCLEAR IF THE CIRCULATION WILL OPEN UP INTO A TROUGH BY  
EARLY NEXT WEEK OR IF SOME REMNANT CIRCULATION WILL MOVE BACK  
OFFSHORE BEYOND THAT TIME PERIOD. FOR NOW, THE NHC FORECAST WILL  
STICK TO THE FORMER SOLUTION SHOWING DISSIPATION BY 60 H.  
 
GIVEN THE EASTWARD SHIFT IN THE GUIDANCE THIS CYCLE, THE TROPICAL  
STORM WATCH HAS BEEN EXTENDED EASTWARD TO CAPE FEAR, NORTH CAROLINA  
THIS ADVISORY.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE WATCH AREA  
BEGINNING THIS EVENING AND CONTINUING THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE COASTAL CAROLINAS WILL CAUSE SOME FLASH  
FLOODING CONCERNS FROM TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE FROM TODAY THROUGH  
MONDAY. ISOLATED TO SCATTERED FLASH FLOODING COULD OCCUR WITHIN MORE  
URBANIZED AREAS ALONG THE COASTAL PLAIN OF THE CAROLINAS.  
 
3. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO BRING ROUGH SURF AND RIP CURRENTS TO  
MUCH OF SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES NORTH OF NORTHEASTERN  
FLORIDA DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 05/0900Z 30.8N 78.6W 30 KT 35 MPH  
12H 05/1800Z 31.5N 78.8W 35 KT 40 MPH  
24H 06/0600Z 32.6N 79.2W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 06/1800Z 33.7N 79.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND  
48H 07/0600Z 34.8N 78.8W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND  
60H 07/1800Z 36.3N 77.1W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND  
72H 08/0600Z...DISSIPATED  
 
 
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