819  
WTPZ45 KNHC 301444  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 2  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
800 AM MST TUE SEP 30 2025  
 
THE CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE OF THE DEPRESSION HAS CONTINUED TO IMPROVE  
THIS MORNING, WITH COLD CLOUD TOPS (-80C CMG) DEVELOPING OVER THE  
SURFACE CENTER, AND A DEEP CONVECTIVE CURVED BAND LOCATED IN THE  
EAST SEMICIRCLE OF THE CYCLONE. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY  
ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB ARE T2.0 AND T3.0, AND THE UW-CIMSS  
OBJECTIVE INTENSITY ANALYSES RANGE FROM 34-39 KT. BASED ON A BLEND  
OF THESE DATA AND THE CYCLONE'S IMPROVED SATELLITE PRESENTATION, THE  
INITIAL INTENSITY IS RAISED TO 35 KT, UPGRADING TROPICAL DEPRESSION  
FIFTEEN-E TO TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE.  
 
ALTHOUGH OCTAVE SHOULD REMAIN OVER WARM OCEANIC SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES, AND MOVE WITHIN A SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT WITH AMPLE  
LOW- TO MID-LEVEL MOISTURE, MODERATE DEEP-LAYER EAST-NORTHEASTERLY  
SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO HAMPER SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. ACCORDINGLY,  
THE FORECAST REFLECTS LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH THROUGH THURSDAY.  
AFTERWARD, THE STATISTICAL DECAY-SHIPS INTENSITY GUIDANCE AND THE  
GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE THAT THE SHEAR WILL DIMINISH SOME, ALLOWING  
FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INTENSIFICATION THROUGH DAY 5, AND THE INTENSITY  
FORECAST FOLLOWS SUIT.  
 
OCTAVE'S INITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE NORTHWESTWARD, OR  
325/4 KT. THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO TURN NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TO  
NORTHWARD LATER TODAY IN RESPONSE TO A MID-TROPOSPHERIC CUT-OFF  
LOW DRIFTING SOUTHWARD TOWARD OCTAVE. BEYOND THE 60 HOUR PERIOD,  
MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL BUILD TO THE  
NORTH OF THE CYCLONE AND INDUCE A WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION THROUGH  
SATURDAY, WHILE THE CUT-OFF MENTIONED ABOVE WEAKENS AND ULTIMATELY  
DISSIPATES. BY DAY 5, THE GLOBAL MODELS AGREE THAT OCTAVE WILL  
SLOW IN FORWARD SPEED AND GRADUALLY TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND  
NORTH-NORTHWEST, WHILE THE RIDGE TO THE NORTH OF THE CYCLONE ERODES.  
THE NHC FORECAST LIES CLOSE TO THE VARIOUS CONSENSUS AIDS AND HAS  
BEEN SHIFTED A BIT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AFTER 36  
HOURS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 30/1500Z 9.9N 113.5W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 01/0000Z 10.4N 113.7W 35 KT 40 MPH  
24H 01/1200Z 11.3N 114.0W 40 KT 45 MPH  
36H 02/0000Z 12.3N 114.3W 40 KT 45 MPH  
48H 02/1200Z 12.9N 115.2W 40 KT 45 MPH  
60H 03/0000Z 13.4N 116.3W 40 KT 45 MPH  
72H 03/1200Z 13.8N 117.5W 45 KT 50 MPH  
96H 04/1200Z 14.6N 119.5W 45 KT 50 MPH  
120H 05/1200Z 15.6N 119.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
 
 
FORECASTER ROBERTS  
 
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