163  
WTPZ45 KNHC 020242  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 8  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
800 PM PDT WED OCT 01 2025  
 
THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION OF OCTAVE HAS IMPROVED SLIGHTLY SINCE THE  
PREVIOUS ADVISORY, WITH BETTER-DEFINED CURVED BANDING DEVELOPING ON  
THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER. THE CYCLONE  
CONTINUES TO BE INFLUENCED BY MODERATE EASTERLY WIND SHEAR, ANALYZED  
AT AROUND 22 KT BY UW-CIMSS. THIS SHEAR IS RESTRICTING OUTFLOW IN  
THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE AND KEEPING THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER DISPLACED ON  
THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE DEEPER CONVECTION. THE MOST RECENT  
SUBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATE FROM TAFB WAS 3.5/55 KT, WHILE  
THE UW-CIMSS OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES HAVE RANGED FROM 45 TO 58 KT SINCE  
THE PRIOR ADVISORY. BASED ON A BLEND OF THESE DATA, AND CONSIDERING  
THE MODEST IMPROVEMENT IN THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION DURING THE PAST  
SEVERAL HOURS, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 55 KT FOR THIS  
ADVISORY.  
 
OCTAVE IS ESTIMATED TO BE MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD, OR 290 DEGREES  
AT 6 KT. THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT  
SEVERAL DAYS AS OCTAVE IS STEERED ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A  
SUBTROPICAL RIDGE LOCATED TO ITS NORTH. BY DAYS 4 AND 5, OCTAVE IS  
FORECAST TO SLOW CONSIDERABLY AND TURN NORTHWARD, THEN EASTWARD, AS  
A LONGWAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE NORTHWEST AND THE SUBTROPICAL  
RIDGE TO ITS EAST WEAKENS DUE TO THE INFLUENCE OF A LARGER TROPICAL  
CYCLONE DEVELOPING OFFSHORE OF THE SOUTHWESTERN OR WEST-CENTRAL  
COAST OF MEXICO. THE NEW NHC TRACK FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE  
PREVIOUS ONE AND REMAINS CLOSE TO A BLEND OF THE MULTI-MODEL  
CONSENSUS AND AI-BASED TRACK AIDS.  
 
OCTAVE WILL REMAIN OVER WARM WATERS AND WITHIN A MOIST ENVIRONMENT  
FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. HOWEVER, VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS FORECAST TO  
FLUCTUATE BETWEEN MODERATE AND STRONG LEVELS DURING THE NEXT 36  
HOURS, WHICH SHOULD INHIBIT SIGNIFICANT INTENSIFICATION DURING THAT  
PERIOD. AS A RESULT, THE OFFICIAL FORECAST INDICATES LITTLE CHANGE  
IN STRENGTH THROUGH THAT TIME. SOME MODEST STRENGTHENING IS THEN  
FORECAST BETWEEN 48 AND 96 HOURS AS THE SHEAR RELAXES, ALTHOUGH SEA  
SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL GRADUALLY COOL AND MID-LEVEL MOISTURE IS  
EXPECTED TO DECREASE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST NOW SHOWS OCTAVE  
REACHING HURRICANE INTENSITY BY DAYS 3 AND 4, THOUGH THIS REMAINS  
BELOW THE MORE AGGRESSIVE SOLUTIONS FROM SOME REGIONAL HURRICANE  
MODELS. BY DAY 5, WEAKENING SHOULD BE WELL UNDERWAY AS OCTAVE MOVES  
INTO A DRIER, MORE STABLE AIR MASS, OVER COOLER WATERS AROUND 26C,  
AND EXPERIENCES INCREASING SHEAR. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS SIMILAR  
TO THE PREVIOUS ONE AND REMAINS MOST CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE HCCA  
AND FSSE INTENSITY AIDS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 02/0300Z 12.2N 117.0W 55 KT 65 MPH  
12H 02/1200Z 12.6N 117.8W 55 KT 65 MPH  
24H 03/0000Z 13.1N 119.1W 55 KT 65 MPH  
36H 03/1200Z 13.5N 120.5W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 04/0000Z 14.0N 121.9W 60 KT 70 MPH  
60H 04/1200Z 14.5N 123.0W 60 KT 70 MPH  
72H 05/0000Z 15.0N 123.8W 65 KT 75 MPH  
96H 06/0000Z 15.7N 123.2W 65 KT 75 MPH  
120H 07/0000Z 16.0N 121.5W 50 KT 60 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER JELSEMA (CPHC)  
 
 
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