977  
WTPZ45 KNHC 022039  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 11  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
200 PM PDT THU OCT 02 2025  
 
OCTAVE CONTINUES TO BE DISRUPTED BY STRONG EASTERLY VERTICAL WIND  
SHEAR. THERE IS A RATHER SHARP EDGE OF THE CLOUD SHIELD ON THE  
EASTERN SIDE OF THE UPPER-LEVEL CLOUD PATTERN AND THE LOW-LEVEL  
CENTER REMAINS NEAR THIS EASTERN EDGE. CONVECTIVE BANDING FEATURES  
ARE NOT VERY WELL DEFINED AND THE UPPER-TROPOSPHERIC OUTFLOW  
CONTINUES TO BE INHIBITED TO THE EAST OF THE SYSTEM. THE ADVISORY  
INTENSITY HAS BEEN ADJUSTED TO 50 KT BASED ON A RECENT ASCAT  
OVERPASS AND THE 34-KT WIND RADII HAVE ALSO BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY  
BASED ON THE SCATTEROMETER DATA.  
 
CENTER FIXES INDICATE THAT THE MOTION REMAINS WEST-NORTHWESTWARD,  
OR 285/7 KT. THE TROPICAL CYCLONE CONTINUES TO MOVE ALONG THE  
SOUTHERN SIDE OF A WEAK MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE, AND SHOULD  
CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. BY 72 HOURS OR SO,  
OCTAVE SHOULD TURN NORTHWARD AND SLOW DOWN AS IT ENCOUNTERS A  
WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE. LATER IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, THE SYSTEM IS  
EXPECTED TO TURN EASTWARD AS IT BEGINS TO BECOME DRAWN INTO A LARGER  
DEVELOPING TROPICAL CYCLONE OFF THE SOUTHWEST COAST OF MEXICO. THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONE ALSO SIMILAR  
TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS PREDICTION.  
 
DYNAMICAL MODELS INDICATE THAT THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER OCTAVE  
IS NOT EXPECTED TO DECREASE SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF  
DAYS. LATER IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, THE SHEAR IS LIKELY TO LESSEN  
ALTHOUGH THE AIR MASS IS EXPECTED TO BECOME SOMEWHAT DRIER BY THAT  
TIME AND THE DEVELOPING TROPICAL CYCLONE TO THE EAST OF OCTAVE COULD  
ALSO HAVE A NEGATIVE INFLUENCE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CALLS FOR  
SOME RE-STRENGTHENING AROUND DAY 3, HOWEVER IT IS ABOVE MOST OF THE  
MODEL GUIDANCE. THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A LOW-CONFIDENCE  
FORECAST.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 02/2100Z 12.7N 119.0W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 03/0600Z 13.0N 119.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 03/1800Z 13.5N 121.1W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 04/0600Z 14.0N 122.3W 50 KT 60 MPH  
48H 04/1800Z 14.6N 123.4W 50 KT 60 MPH  
60H 05/0600Z 15.0N 123.9W 55 KT 65 MPH  
72H 05/1800Z 15.3N 123.7W 60 KT 70 MPH  
96H 06/1800Z 15.5N 123.5W 60 KT 70 MPH  
120H 07/1800Z 15.7N 120.5W 45 KT 50 MPH  
 
 
FORECASTER PASCH  
 
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