101  
WTPZ45 KNHC 030247  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 12  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
800 PM PDT THU OCT 02 2025  
 
OCTAVE APPEARS TO BE IN A DELICATE STATE THIS EVENING. HINTS OF THE  
LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION APPEARED ON THE LAST-LIGHT GOES VISIBLE  
IMAGERY WHILE THE AFTERNOON'S DECAYING CONVECTION DRIFTED WESTWARD.  
HOWEVER, A NEW BURST OF DEEP CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED JUST TO THE  
WEST OF THE CENTER. OBJECTIVE AND SUBJECTIVE SATELLITE INTENSITY  
ESTIMATES HAVE REMAINED RATHER STEADY. THEREFORE, THE INITIAL  
INTENSITY REMAINS AT 50 KT, REPRESENTING A BLEND OF THE TAFB AND SAB  
DVORAK ESTIMATES.  
 
THE CYCLONE IS MOVING STEADILY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 6 KT ALONG THE  
SOUTHERN SIDE OF A WEAK SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE RIDGE SHOULD  
CONTINUE TO STEER OCTAVE IN THIS DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF  
DAYS. BY DAY 3, THE STORM SHOULD SLOWLY DRIFT NORTHWARD FOLLOWED BY  
A SHARP TURN TO THE EAST AS IT MOVES IN THE WAKE OF A STRONGER  
TROPICAL CYCLONE (INVEST 99) OFF THE COAST OF SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO.  
THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, AND IS  
ALSO SIMILAR TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS PREDICTION.  
 
BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF INDICATE THAT THE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS  
COULD BECOME A LITTLE MORE CONDUCIVE IN ABOUT A DAY AND A HALF. IF  
OCTAVE CAN MAINTAIN ITS CURRENT STATE, VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS  
EXPECTED TO ABATE FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY MORNING. THE LATEST NHC  
INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR GRADUAL STRENGTHENING BETWEEN 48 TO 72  
H, FOLLOWED BY STEADY WEAKENING AS THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS  
EXPECTED TO INCREASE ONCE AGAIN. THE NEAR-TERM PREDICTION LIES ON  
THE HIGH END OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE AND BLENDS CLOSER TO THE  
CORRECTED CONSENSUS AID, HCCA, BY THE MID-TO-LATTER PORTION OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 03/0300Z 12.9N 119.6W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 03/1200Z 13.2N 120.5W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 04/0000Z 13.8N 121.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 04/1200Z 14.4N 122.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
48H 05/0000Z 14.8N 123.6W 55 KT 65 MPH  
60H 05/1200Z 15.2N 123.8W 60 KT 70 MPH  
72H 06/0000Z 15.5N 123.3W 60 KT 70 MPH  
96H 07/0000Z 15.7N 121.3W 50 KT 60 MPH  
120H 08/0000Z 15.4N 118.7W 40 KT 45 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER BUCCI  
 
 
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