927  
WTPZ45 KNHC 032035  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 15  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
200 PM PDT FRI OCT 03 2025  
 
WHILE OCTAVE'S OVERALL APPEARANCE HAS REMAINED STEADY SINCE THIS  
MORNING, ITS CENTER APPEARS TO BE JUST EMBEDDED ENOUGH WITHIN THE  
CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST PRODUCED BY ITS CONVECTION FOR RECENT  
SUBJECTIVE DVORAK ESTIMATES TO COME UP TO T3.5 OR 55 KT. OBJECTIVE  
INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE STILL A LITTLE LOWER, SO THE INTENSITY HAS  
BEEN NUDGED UP SLIGHTLY TO 50 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY. THERE WAS NO  
USEFUL ASCAT DATA AVAILABLE FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S ANALYSIS, BUT  
EARLIER SAR DATA ALSO GENERALLY SUPPORTED AN INTENSITY NEAR 50 KT  
WITH WIND RADII SIMILAR TO WHAT NHC PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED.  
 
NO CHANGES OF NOTE WERE MADE TO THE NHC TRACK OR INTENSITY  
FORECASTS, BUT BOTH ASPECTS OF THE FORECAST REMAIN HIGHLY UNCERTAIN,  
ESPECIALLY BEYOND THE NEXT 24 HOURS. OCTAVE SHOULD STILL CONTINUE  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD FOR ANOTHER DAY OR SO, BEFORE IT SLOWS DOWN AND  
TURNS NORTHWARD. NEXT WEEK OCTAVE WILL LIKELY BEGIN MOVING SLOWLY  
EASTWARD, BUT EXACTLY HOW FAST AND HOW FAR NORTH IT MOVES BEFORE  
WILL DEPEND ON HOW MUCH OCTAVE INTERACTS WITH A TROUGH WELL TO ITS  
NORTH AND A LARGE DISTURBANCE DEVELOPING TO ITS EAST. THE NHC TRACK  
FORECAST IS STILL NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE MULTI-MODEL AND  
SINGLE-MODEL ENSEMBLE ENVELOPES BUT CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST HAS  
NOT INCREASED, ESPECIALLY BEYOND 72 HOURS.  
 
SIMILARLY, OCTAVE'S INTENSITY WILL PROBABLY CHANGE LITTLE FOR THE  
NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AFTER THAT, IT WILL HAVE A BRIEF PERIOD OF A  
DAY OR SO WHERE THE SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO LESSEN AND THE CYCLONE  
COULD INTENSITY FURTHER. THE GOOGLE DEEPMIND ENSEMBLE MEAN CONTINUES  
TO BE AN OUTLIER IN SHOWING OCTAVE REACHING HURRICANE STRENGTH, BUT  
THE ENSEMBLE SHOWS THAT THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES FROM  
A NEAR STEADY-STATE TROPICAL STORM TO A STRONG HURRICANE. THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST IS STILL ON THE HIGH END OF THE OTHER INTENSITY  
GUIDANCE, BUT IS LOWER THAN THE GDM MEAN. BY THE END OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD, OCTAVE WILL LIKELY WEAKEN AS IT INTERACTS WITH THE  
MUCH LARGER DISTURBANCE CURRENTLY LOCATED TO ITS EAST.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 03/2100Z 13.7N 121.7W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 04/0600Z 14.1N 122.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 04/1800Z 14.7N 123.7W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 05/0600Z 15.2N 124.1W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 05/1800Z 15.6N 123.8W 55 KT 65 MPH  
60H 06/0600Z 15.7N 123.4W 50 KT 60 MPH  
72H 06/1800Z 15.7N 122.5W 50 KT 60 MPH  
96H 07/1800Z 15.2N 120.5W 40 KT 45 MPH  
120H 08/1800Z 15.0N 118.0W 35 KT 40 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER D. ZELINSKY  
 
 
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