620  
WTPZ45 KNHC 040233  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 16  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
800 PM PDT FRI OCT 03 2025  
 
OCTAVE STILL HAS THE APPEARANCE OF A SHEARED TROPICAL CYCLONE.  
INFRARED GEOSTATIONARY SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS THAT CLOUD TOP  
TEMPERATURES HAVE GENERALLY WARMED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS. SIMILAR  
TO THE PREVIOUS NIGHT, ISOLATED BURSTS OF CONVECTION ARE  
CURRENTLY FORMING WITHIN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION.  
THIS CAN ALSO BE SEEN ON AN AMSR2 MICROWAVE PASS FROM EARLIER  
THIS AFTERNOON THAT HAD A FRAGMENTED CURVED BAND WRAPPING AROUND  
THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN SIDES OF OCTAVE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS  
HELD AT 50 KT, REPRESENTING A BLEND OF THE SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE  
DVORAK ESTIMATES THAT RANGE BETWEEN 39 TO 55 KT.  
 
THE TROPICAL STORM IS STILL MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 7 KT.  
OCTAVE IS EXPECTED TO TURN MORE TO THE NORTHWEST SOON, FOLLOWED BY  
A NORTHWARD MOTION ON SUNDAY WITH A DECREASED FORWARD SPEED AS THE  
MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE EAST WEAKENS. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE  
CYCLONE SHOULD BEGIN TO MOVE EASTWARD, BUT THE TRACK GUIDANCE  
ENVELOPE IS QUITE LARGE BY THE MIDDLE-TO-LATTER PORTIONS OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD. THIS IS BECAUSE MODELS DIFFER ON HOW MUCH OCTAVE  
WILL INTERACT WITH A TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES AND HOW  
QUICKLY A DEVELOPING DISTURBANCE (INVEST 99-E) WILL ORGANIZE. THE  
ONLY CHANGES TO THE LATEST NHC TRACK FORECAST ARE THAT IT LIES  
SLIGHTLY SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST IN THE FIRST 36 H,  
DUE THE DELAYED TURN TO THE NORTHWEST.  
 
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS GRADUALLY RELAXING OVER THE CYCLONE WHICH  
COULD LEAD TO SOME SLIGHT STRENGTHENING IN ABOUT A DAY. MOST OF THE  
RELIABLE MODELS ARE NO LONGER SHOWING OCTAVE BECOMING A HURRICANE.  
BY 48 H, THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE AND  
GRADUALLY WEAKEN THE CYCLONE AS IT MOVES EASTWARD TOWARDS THE MUCH  
LARGER SYSTEM TO ITS EAST. ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE  
TO THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST, WHICH LIES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE  
GUIDANCE SUITE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/0300Z 13.8N 122.7W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 04/1200Z 14.2N 123.5W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 05/0000Z 14.8N 124.2W 55 KT 65 MPH  
36H 05/1200Z 15.3N 124.2W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 06/0000Z 15.5N 123.9W 55 KT 65 MPH  
60H 06/1200Z 15.7N 123.1W 50 KT 60 MPH  
72H 07/0000Z 15.5N 121.8W 45 KT 50 MPH  
96H 08/0000Z 15.0N 120.0W 40 KT 45 MPH  
120H 09/0000Z 14.8N 117.2W 35 KT 40 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER BUCCI  
 
 
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