513  
WTPZ45 KNHC 040841  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 17  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
200 AM PDT SAT OCT 04 2025  
 
OCTAVE IS STILL TRYING TO BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED THIS MORNING, AS  
SHEAR STARTS TO DECREASE OVER THE SYSTEM. IN RECENT SATELLITE  
IMAGES, A LARGE CONVECTIVE BAND HAS STARTED TO BECOME BETTER  
ESTABLISHED ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SYSTEM WITH COLD CLOUD TOPS  
NEAR -80 C. HOWEVER, RECENT SATELLITE-DERIVED WINDS DEPICTED PEAK  
WINDS OF ONLY 34 KT, ALTHOUGH IT DID NOT SAMPLE THE CONVECTIVE BAND  
TO THE WEST. SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES  
HAVE HELD STEADY AND RANGE FROM 45 TO 55 KT. USING A BLEND OF THESE  
ESTIMATES AND THE LOWER SATELLITE DERIVED WIND SPEEDS, THE INTENSITY  
IS LOWERED TO 45 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY.  
 
THE STORM IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWEST AT AN ESTIMATED MOTION OF 290/7  
KT. OCTAVE SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST LATER TODAY,  
FOLLOWED BY A NORTHWARD TURN ON SUNDAY WITH A DECREASE IN FORWARD  
SPEED AS STEERING CURRENTS WEAKEN. IN ABOUT 48 H, THERE CONTINUE TO  
BE DIFFERENCES WITHIN THE TRACK GUIDANCE ENVELOPE AND IT IS DUE TO  
HOW MUCH INTERACTION OCCURS WITH A TROUGH TO THE NORTH OF THE SYSTEM  
AND A DEVELOPING DISTURBANCE (INVEST 99E) TO THE EAST. THE LATEST  
NHC TRACK FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS IN THE SHORT-TERM, BUT  
IS SLIGHTLY FASTER WITH THE EASTWARD MOTION CLOSEST TO THE HCCA AND  
GOOGLE DEEPMIND SOLUTIONS.  
 
WIND SHEAR HAS STARTED TO DECREASE OVER THE SYSTEM, WITH MARGINALLY  
WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR 27 C ALONG THE FORECAST TRACK.  
THUS, SLIGHT INTENSIFICATION IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.  
BY 48 H, THE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE AND A  
WEAKENING TREND IS FORECAST AS IT INTERACTS WITH A MUCH LARGER  
SYSTEM TO THE EAST. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS NEAR THE PREVIOUS,  
SHOWING SOME SLIGHT STRENGTHENING POSSIBLE, ALTHOUGH A LOWER PEAK  
INTENSITY AND LIES NEAR THE SIMPLE INTENSITY CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 04/0900Z 14.2N 123.2W 45 KT 50 MPH  
12H 04/1800Z 14.6N 123.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 05/0600Z 15.2N 124.1W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 05/1800Z 15.6N 123.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
48H 06/0600Z 15.8N 123.0W 45 KT 50 MPH  
60H 06/1800Z 15.9N 121.9W 40 KT 45 MPH  
72H 07/0600Z 15.5N 120.5W 35 KT 40 MPH  
96H 08/0600Z 15.0N 118.5W 30 KT 35 MPH  
120H 09/0600Z 15.6N 115.2W 30 KT 35 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER KELLY  
 
 
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