459  
WTPZ45 KNHC 090835  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM OCTAVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 37  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152025  
200 AM MST THU OCT 09 2025  
 
OCTAVE HAS MANAGED TO HOLD ONTO A SMALL AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION  
SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY, DESPITE EAST-SOUTHEASTERLY SHEAR  
ANALYZED BY UW-CIMSS TO BE AROUND 22 KT. HOWEVER, THE SATELLITE  
PRESENTATION HAS DEGRADED, WITH THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION BECOMING  
MORE RAGGED. THE LATEST SUBJECTIVE DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY  
ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB WERE BOTH 2.0/30 KT, WHILE RECENT  
OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES FROM UW-CIMSS RANGED BETWEEN 29 AND 34 KT.  
CONSIDERING THE DETERIORATION IN SATELLITE APPEARANCE AND THE LATEST  
INTENSITY ESTIMATES, THE INITIAL INTENSITY FOR THIS ADVISORY HAS  
BEEN LOWERED TO 35 KT.  
 
OCTAVE IS NOW MOVING EAST-NORTHEASTWARD, OR 065 DEGREES AT 16 KT.  
THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THIS MORNING, FOLLOWED  
BY AN EASTWARD TURN LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT TOWARD A NEWLY DEVELOPING  
TROPICAL CYCLONE (INVEST 90E) OFF THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO.  
THE NHC FORECAST TRACK FOLLOWS A BLEND OF THE GOOGLE DEEPMIND  
ENSEMBLE MEAN AND THE LATEST MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
OCTAVE APPEARS TO BE NEARING THE END OF ITS LIFE, AS STRONG EASTERLY  
SHEAR OF MORE THAN 30 KT IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE AFFECTING THE  
SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THE CURRENT BURST OF DEEP  
CONVECTION SOUTHWEST OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS FORECAST TO COLLAPSE  
SOON, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST GFS AND ECMWF SIMULATED SATELLITE  
IMAGERY. THIS MAY ALREADY BE OCCURRING, WITH RECENT INFRARED  
SATELLITE IMAGES SHOWING WARMING CLOUD TOPS AND THE REMAINING  
CONVECTION BECOMING FURTHER DISPLACED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE  
LOW-LEVEL CENTER. THE NEW NHC INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR OCTAVE  
TO BECOME A POST-TROPICAL REMNANT LOW IN 12 HOURS AND DISSIPATE BY  
24 HOURS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 09/0900Z 16.9N 111.7W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 09/1800Z 17.4N 109.7W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
24H 10/0600Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER JELSEMA (CPHC)  
 
 
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