756  
WTPZ42 KNHC 091440  
TCDEP2  
 
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SEVENTEEN-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 1  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP172025  
900 AM CST THU OCT 09 2025  
 
THE LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHWESTERN  
COAST OF MEXICO (INVEST 90E) HAS CONTINUED TO GAIN ORGANIZATION.  
CONVECTIVE BANDING HAS BECOME MORE EVIDENT IN THE SOUTHERN AND  
WESTERN PART OF THE CIRCULATION, AND THE LATEST DVORAK ESTIMATES  
FROM TAFB AND SAB ARE T2.0 AND T1.5, RESPECTIVELY. THE CONVECTIVE  
PATTERN DOES SUGGEST THAT THE CIRCULATION MIGHT STILL BE A BIT  
ELONGATED, BUT HOURLY OBSERVATIONS FROM A CRUISE SHIP, THE  
NORWEGIAN JOY (C6CX3), HELPED TO LOCATE THE MAIN CENTER OF  
CIRCULATION, PRESSURE MINIMUM, AND ESTIMATED WINDS. THE  
CIRCULATION AND CONVECTION ARE NOW ORGANIZED ENOUGH TO CLASSIFY THE  
SYSTEM AS A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.  
 
THE CENTER WE'RE NOW TRACKING IS SOMEWHAT DISCONTINUOUS FROM A  
FEATURE WE WERE TRACKING YESTERDAY FARTHER TO THE EAST, AND THE  
INITIAL MOTION IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WEST-NORTHWESTWARD, OR 285/12  
KT. STRONG MID-LEVEL RIDGING OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. IS EXPECTED TO STEER THE DEPRESSION ON A QUICK  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD TRACK DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS,  
WITH THE CENTER PARALLELING THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO THROUGH  
LATE FRIDAY. THE SYSTEM IS THEN LIKELY TO ROUND THE WESTERN  
PERIPHERY OF THE HIGH AND MOVE TOWARD THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA  
IN 2-3 DAYS. THE MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT FOR  
THIS FIRST FORECAST, AND THE NHC TRACK IS CLOSE TO A BLEND OF THE  
TVCE AND HCCA CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
THE DEPRESSION IS BEING AFFECTED BY STRONG EASTERLY SHEAR WHICH IS  
LIKELY TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HOWEVER, THE SYSTEM IS  
ALSO OVER VERY WARM WATERS (29-30 DEGREES CELSIUS), IN AN  
ENVIRONMENT OF STRONG UPPER-LEVEL DIVERGENCE, AND MOVING  
QUICKLY, WHICH SHOULD ALL ALLOW FOR SOME MODEST STRENGTHENING  
DURING THAT TIME. THE NHC FORECAST IS NEAR THE TOP END OF  
THE GUIDANCE AND CLOSE TO THE HCCA AID IN THE SHORT TERM. ALTHOUGH  
THE SHEAR IS FORECAST TO DECREASE SOME AFTER 24 HOURS, THE  
MID-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT IS EXPECTED TO BECOME DRIER AND MORE STABLE  
WHILE THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS BECOME MORE CONVERGENT. THOSE CHANGES  
SHOULD INDUCE WEAKENING WHILE THE SYSTEM IS APPROACHING THE SOUTHERN  
BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. ALTHOUGH A REMNANT LOW POINT IS  
PROVIDED OVER NORTHWESTERN MEXICO ON DAY 4, IT IS LIKELY THAT THE  
SYSTEM WILL DISSIPATE BEFORE THAT TIME.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE  
COAST OF SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO THROUGH LATE FRIDAY. INTERESTS IN  
SOUTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE  
SYSTEM.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION WILL  
IMPACT COASTAL SECTIONS OF SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO THROUGH SATURDAY,  
WHICH COULD RESULT IN FLASH FLOODING, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS OF  
HIGHER TERRAIN.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 09/1500Z 16.2N 100.8W 30 KT 35 MPH  
12H 10/0000Z 16.8N 102.6W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 10/1200Z 18.1N 105.1W 45 KT 50 MPH  
36H 11/0000Z 19.8N 107.8W 40 KT 45 MPH  
48H 11/1200Z 21.4N 109.9W 35 KT 40 MPH  
60H 12/0000Z 23.3N 111.0W 30 KT 35 MPH  
72H 12/1200Z 25.5N 111.2W 30 KT 35 MPH  
96H 13/1200Z 29.2N 110.7W 15 KT 15 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
120H 14/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
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