444  
WTNT42 KNHC 140248  
TCDAT2  
 
TROPICAL STORM LORENZO DISCUSSION NUMBER 4  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122025  
1100 PM AST MON OCT 13 2025  
 
SATELLITE IMAGES SHOWS THAT LORENZO IS PRODUCING A SMALL AREA OF  
DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE CENTER OF THE TROPICAL STORM, WITH THE BULK  
OF ITS ASSOCIATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY WELL TO THE EAST. WHILE THE  
SYSTEM DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WELL ORGANIZED ON CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE,  
WSF-M MICROWAVE IMAGES FROM A FEW HOURS AGO REVEALED THAT LORENZO  
HAS A SMALL CENTRAL CORE WITH SOME CHARACTER. ADDITIONALLY, RECENT  
SCATTEROMETER DATA INDICATED A LARGE AREA OF 45-KT WINDS WERE  
PRESENT. THE INITIAL WIND SPEED IS SET TO 50 KT, ASSUMING SOME  
UNDERSAMPLING BASED ON THE COARSE ASCAT RESOLUTION.  
 
LORENZO IS MOVING NORTHWESTWARD AT 11 KT, AND THAT MOTION SHOULD  
CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. A GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST WITH  
AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS ANTICIPATED LATE TUESDAY INTO  
WEDNESDAY DUE TO THE STORM MOVING AROUND THE NORTHWESTERN PERIPHERY  
OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE INTO A FASTER FLOW REGIME. THE BIGGEST  
CHANGE TO NOTE TO THIS FORECAST IS THAT MOST OF THE GUIDANCE NOW  
TURN THE SYSTEM TO THE EAST LATE THIS WEEK AND THEN TO THE SOUTH AS  
THE CYCLONE, OR ITS REMNANTS, GET TRAPPED WITHIN THE SUBTROPICAL  
RIDGE. LITTLE CHANGE WAS MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST DURING THE  
FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS, THEN A LARGE EASTWARD AND SOUTHWARD ADJUSTMENT  
WAS MADE AT LONG RANGE, RESULTING IN A SHARP EQUATORWARD HOOK OF  
LORENZO THIS WEEKEND.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS QUITE CHALLENGING. AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW  
THAT HAS BEEN SHEARING LORENZO IS FORECAST TO DROP TO THE  
SOUTHWEST, RESULTING IN DECREASING SHEAR DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF  
DAYS. THIS SYNOPTIC EVOLUTION IS HISTORICALLY WELL KNOWN FOR  
INTENSIFICATION GIVEN THE RECENT FORMATION OF THE SMALL INNER CORE  
OVER WARM WATERS. HOWEVER, VERY DRY AIR IS PRESENT IN THE  
ENVIRONMENT, AND LORENZO SHOULD EMBED ITSELF DEEP INTO A RECENT  
SAHARAN AIR LAYER (SAL) OUTBREAK TO THE NORTH WITHIN A COUPLE OF  
DAYS. THERE ARE CREDIBLE MODELS THAT RESPOND TO THESE FACTORS BY  
WEAKENING THIS INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION IN A FEW DAYS, LIKE THE  
HAFS-A/B, OR A CATEGORY 1/2 HURRICANE, LIKE THE HWRF/HMON. THE NEW  
FORECAST SPLITS THESE EXTREMES, ENDING UP A BIT HIGHER THAN THE  
PREVIOUS OFFICIAL FORECAST BUT NEAR THE HFIP CORRECTED CONSENSUS  
MODEL HCCA. IT SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED THAT THIS IS A LOW-CONFIDENCE  
PREDICTION FOR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS LISTED ABOVE AND THE CYCLONE'S  
SMALL SIZE, MAKING IT SUSCEPTIBLE TO LARGE UPWARD OR DOWNWARD  
CHANGES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 14/0300Z 16.2N 42.8W 50 KT 60 MPH  
12H 14/1200Z 17.4N 43.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
24H 15/0000Z 19.3N 44.5W 50 KT 60 MPH  
36H 15/1200Z 21.6N 44.2W 55 KT 65 MPH  
48H 16/0000Z 24.3N 41.9W 60 KT 70 MPH  
60H 16/1200Z 26.6N 39.0W 60 KT 70 MPH  
72H 17/0000Z 29.0N 35.0W 55 KT 65 MPH  
96H 18/0000Z 29.0N 28.9W 50 KT 60 MPH  
120H 19/0000Z 26.0N 31.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL  
 

 
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