328  
WTPZ45 KNHC 102059  
TCDEP5  
 
HURRICANE SIMON DISCUSSION NUMBER 14  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202026  
300 PM CST SAT OCT 10 2026  
 
AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTERS HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING SIMON  
THIS AFTERNOON, FINDING THAT THE HURRICANE IS INDEED A CATEGORY 4  
STORM. THE MINIMUM PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE DOWN TO 932 MB, AND  
THE PEAK 700 MB FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS WERE 134 KT IN THE EASTERN  
QUADRANT OF THE HURRICANE. WHILE A STANDARD 0.9 REDUCTION WOULD  
TYPICALLY SUPPORT A 10 METER SUSTAINED WIND OF 120-125 KT, THE  
ENTIRE WIND FIELD OF SIMON WAS NOT FULLY SAMPLED. IN ADDITION, THERE  
WAS AN EARLIER PARTIAL SYNTHETIC APERTURE RADAR (SAR) RCM-1 PASS  
WHICH HAD A PEAK WIND OF 138 KT. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES,  
WHICH HAVE BEEN LAGGING BEHIND THE ESTIMATED INTENSITY OF SIMON,  
HAVE ALSO RISEN SOMEWHAT TODAY. TAKING ALL THESE DATA POINTS  
TOGETHER, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 130 KT THIS ADVISORY. THE  
AIRCRAFT ALSO REPORTED CONCENTRIC EYEWALLS, WITH THE INNER EYEWALL  
12 N MI AND OUTER WALL AT 36 N MI. SOME CONCENTRIC BANDS WERE ALSO  
PICKED UP BY A RECENT AMSR-3 MICROWAVE PASS.  
 
AFTER SLOWING DOWN TO A CRAWL EARLIER, AIRCRAFT FIXES INDICATE THAT  
SIMON STARTING TO MOVE DUE NORTH AGAIN, WITH AN ESTIMATED MOTION AT  
360/4 KT. AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE HURRICANE IS BEING PRIMARILY  
STEERED BY A WEAK MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE EAST, PROVIDING DEEP-LAYER  
SOUTHERLY FLOW. A SUBTLE NARROW MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTHWEST IS  
ALSO IMPARTING A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF NORTHERLY FLOW. ONCE AGAIN, THE  
TRACK GUIDANCE THIS AFTERNOON HAS MADE A SLOWER ADJUSTMENT. IN  
ADDITION, THERE IS A BIT OF AN EASTWARD SHIFT IN THE GUIDANCE  
ENVELOPE. ONE NOTABLE CHANGE FROM THIS MORNING, NOW ALL THE  
HURRICANE-REGIONAL MODEL RUNS (HWRF, HMON, HAFS-A, HAFS-B) ALL SHOW  
SIMON MAKING LANDFALL IN JALISCO IN 24-36 H. IN ADDITION, BOTH THE  
GOOGLE DEEPMIND ENSEMBLE MEAN (GDMI) AND ITS UPGRADED WEATHER NEXT  
MODEL (WN3I) ALSO NUDGED THEIR TRACKS EASTWARD. THUS, THE NHC TRACK  
FORECAST HAS SHIFTED A BIT TO THE EAST, BUT STILL LIES ON THE  
EASTERN END OF THE GUIDANCE. PART OF THE REASON FOR FAVORING THE  
EASTERN EDGE OF THE GUIDANCE IS THAT THERE IS A PRETTY WELL-KNOWN  
BIAS THAT TROPICAL CYCLONES IN THIS AREA TEND TO TRACK EAST OF THE  
FORECAST TRACK DUE TO INTERACTION WITH THE HIGH TOPOGRAPHY OF  
COASTAL MEXICO.  
 
AS MENTIONED THIS MORNING, THE FUTURE INTENSITY FORECAST OF SIMON IS  
HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY SIMON'S ULTIMATE TRACK. BECAUSE LARGE-SCALE  
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REMAIN FAVORABLE, SIMON'S SHORT-TERM  
INTENSITY FORECAST WILL LIKELY BE CONTROLLED BY INNER-CORE  
FLUCTUATIONS, LIKE EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLES. THIS IS PERTINENT  
GIVEN THE CONCENTRIC EYEWALLS NOTED BY THE AIRCRAFT MISSION.  
HOWEVER, AS SIMON NEARS THE MEXICAN COAST, THE HIGH TOPOGRAPHY WILL  
INTERACT WITH THE HURRICANE'S OUTER CIRCULATION, AND SPOT SOUNDINGS  
IN THE HAFS-A/B RUNS SHOW EVIDENCE OF DOWNSLOPE SUBSIDENCE OCCURRING  
AS SIMON NEARS LANDFALL. THIS EFFECT WILL BOTH CAUSE THE HURRICANE'S  
WIND FIELD TO SHRINK IN SIZE, AND WILL LIKELY RESULT IN WEAKENING  
EVEN BEFORE THE HURRICANE MAKES LANDFALL IN MEXICO. WEAKENING IS  
EXPECTED TO BEGIN BETWEEN 12-24 H, WITH MORE SUBSTANTIAL WEAKENING  
OCCURRING WHEN SIMON MOVES FULLY ONSHORE. ONCE AGAIN, THIS INTENSITY  
FORECAST IS QUITE UNCERTAIN. IF SIMON REMAINS OFFSHORE, LIKE THE  
ECMWF AND A DECENT CHUNK OF GDM ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW, IT MAY REMAIN  
MUCH STRONGER THAN THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST. THE LATEST  
FORECAST IS A BIT LOWER THAN THE PRIOR ONE, WITH A BIT MORE  
CONFIDENCE THAT SIMON WILL MOVE INLAND, THOUGH THE LATEST FORECAST  
STILL SHOWS SIMON DISSIPATING OVER MEXICO AFTER 60 H.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. CATASTROPHIC WIND AND LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE IMPACTS ARE  
LIKELY ALONG A PORTION OF THE WEST-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO, AND A  
HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM PUNTA SAN TELMO TO EL ROBLITO.  
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS  
AFTERNOON.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH SIMON WILL IMPACT PORTIONS OF  
SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO THROUGH THIS WEEKEND. THIS RAINFALL WILL PRODUCE  
LIFE-THREATENING FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS OF  
STEEP TERRAIN.  
 
3. SWELLS WILL AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWESTERN AND WEST-CENTRAL  
COAST OF MEXICO THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THESE SWELLS ARE LIKELY TO  
CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING SURF AND RIP CURRENT CONDITIONS. PLEASE  
CONSULT PRODUCTS FROM YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 10/2100Z 17.6N 104.8W 130 KT 150 MPH  
12H 11/0600Z 18.3N 104.9W 130 KT 150 MPH  
24H 11/1800Z 19.4N 105.1W 110 KT 125 MPH  
36H 12/0600Z 20.8N 105.2W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND  
48H 12/1800Z 21.9N 105.2W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND  
60H 13/0600Z 22.8N 105.1W 15 KT 15 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND  
72H 13/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 
 
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