821  
WTPZ45 KNHC 121459  
TCDEP5  
 
HURRICANE SIMON DISCUSSION NUMBER 21  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202026  
800 AM MST MON OCT 12 2026  
 
SIMON'S INTERACTION WITH THE COAST OF MEXICO HAS MADE IT A VERY  
COMPACT HURRICANE. THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING CONSISTS  
OF A VERY SMALL CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST WITH A WARM SPOT IN THE  
CENTER WHICH STILL APPEARS TO BE A SMALL EYE. THE CONVECTION IS ALSO  
VERY ELECTRICALLY ACTIVE, WITH SUBSTANTIAL LIGHTNING OCCURRING IN  
THE EASTERN EYEWALL. A 1110 UTC GPM MICROWAVE PASS SHOWED THAT  
SIMON'S INNER CORE REMAINS INTACT, THOUGH WITH THE EYE OPEN ON THE  
NORTHWEST SIDE. THIS STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH SOME MID-LEVEL  
EASTERLY SHEAR THAT APPEARS TO BE UNDERCUTTING THE OUTFLOW LAYER,  
LOOKING AT SOME AREA-AVERAGE SOUNDINGS FROM THE HAFS-A/B  
INITIALIZATION THIS MORNING. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES HAVE A  
LARGE RANGE THIS MORNING, AS LOW AS CI 4.1/67 KT FROM THE UW-CIMSS  
ADT, OR AS HIGH AS CI 5.5/102 KT FROM THE LATEST SUBJECTIVE DVORAK  
FIX. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS LOWERED SLIGHTLY TO 95 KT FOR THIS  
ADVISORY, FAVORING A BLEND OF THE LATEST SATCON (100 KT) AND D-MINT  
(85-90 KT) ESTIMATES.  
 
BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGES, SIMON CONTINUES TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY TO  
THE NORTHWEST, WITH AN ESTIMATED MOTION OF 315 DEGREES AT 3 KT. THIS  
VERY SLOW MOTION IS THE RESULT OF COMPETING STEERING INFLUENCES FROM  
A DISTANT MID-LEVEL RIDGE CENTERED OVER THE TEXAS GULF COAST, AND  
ANOTHER WEAKER MID-LEVEL RIDGE PLACED SOUTHWEST OF SIMON OVER THE  
EASTERN PACIFIC. IN GENERAL THE STEERING IMPARTED BY THE RIDGE TO  
THE NORTHWEST SHOULD BE A LITTLE STRONGER, AND THUS SIMON IS  
EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN A VERY SLOW NORTHWESTWARD MOTION OVER THE NEXT  
24-36 H. AFTER THAT PERIOD, A LARGE TROUGH WITH AN EMBEDDED  
SHORT-WAVE IS EXPECTED TO AMPLIFY AND MOVE INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN  
UNITED STATES, AND THIS TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO EXTEND FAR ENOUGH  
SOUTHWARD TO IMPART A LITTLE MORE WESTERLY FLOW THAT SHOULD  
ULTIMATELY TURN SIMON TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST IN THE 48-72 HOUR TIME  
FRAME. WITH THAT SAID, THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS NOT AT ALL IN AGREEMENT  
ON HOW QUICKLY THIS TURN WILL OCCUR. THE LATEST 06 UTC GFS AND  
HAFS-A/B RUNS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY MOVE SIMON NORTHWARD AND THEN  
NORTH-NORTHEAST, RESULTING IN A MUCH FASTER LANDFALL BACK IN  
MAINLAND MEXICO. BY CONTRAST, THE 06 UTC ECMWF RUN SHOWS A  
SHORT-TERM WESTWARD TRACK THAT MEANDERS OFFSHORE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF  
THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA BEFORE IT TURNS NORTHWARD AND MOVES UP  
INTO THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA. THE ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS ALSO ALL OVER  
THE PLACE, RESEMBLING A SQUASHED SPIDER WITH SUBSTANTIAL SPREAD FROM  
THE SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST DIRECTION. THE LATEST NHC TRACK FORECAST  
HAS BEEN SHIFTED WESTWARD AND IS QUITE A BIT SLOWER, FOLLOWING THE  
LATEST TRENDS IN THE TRACK GUIDANCE. HOWEVER, THIS TRACK IS NOT  
NEARLY AS SLOW OR AS FAR WEST AS THE LATEST GOOGLE DEEPMIND ENSEMBLE  
MEAN (GDMI) OR ITS NEWER WEATHER NEXT MODEL (WN3I). GIVEN THE LARGE  
SPREAD IN SOLUTIONS, THIS REMAINS A LOW CONFIDENCE TRACK FORECAST.  
 
BASED ON THE EARLIER MICROWAVE IMAGES, SIMON STILL APPEARS TO HAVE A  
SMALL INNER CORE, AND THAT IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION TO TAKE  
INTO ACCOUNT IN THE FORECAST OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. WHILE THE  
HURRICANE APPEARS TO BE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH SOME MID-LEVEL  
EASTERLY SHEAR AND THAT MAY RESULT IN A LITTLE MORE SHORT-TERM  
WEAKENING, THIS SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO SUBSIDE OVER THE NEXT 24 H AS  
SIMON TRAVERSES VERY WARM 30-31 C SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES. IN FACT,  
THE LATEST HMON AND HAFS-A/B RUNS SHOW THE SMALL CORE OF SIMON  
RECOVERING AND RE-INTENSIFYING BACK INTO A MAJOR HURRICANE LATER  
THIS WEEK. THUS, THE LATEST NHC INTENSITY FORECAST STARTS TO SHOW  
SOME RESTRENGTHENING AFTER 24 H. SMALL STORMS LIKE SIMON CAN ALSO  
BE PRONE TO RAPID CHANGES IN INTENSITY, BOTH UP OR DOWN, WHICH  
MAKES THE INTENSITY FORECAST ALSO MORE UNCERTAIN THAN USUAL. THIS  
FORECAST IS INITIALLY CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE BUT ENDS  
UP ON THE HIGHER SIDE AFTER 48 H. RAPID WEAKENING IS STILL  
ANTICIPATED WHEN SIMON EVENTUALLY MAKES LANDFALL LATER THIS WEEK  
TOWARDS THE END OF THE FORECAST.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. TROPICAL STORM WINDS ARE STILL LIKELY ALONG A PORTION OF THE  
WEST-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FOR A FEW MORE HOURS, WHERE A TROPICAL  
STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT.  
 
2. SIMON IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE COAST OF WESTERN MEXICO LATER  
THIS WEEK, WHERE HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE. A HURRICANE  
WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM CABO CORRIENTES TO BAHIA TEMPEHUAYA.  
 
3. HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH SIMON WILL IMPACT PORTIONS OF  
SOUTHWESTERN AND WEST-CENTRAL MEXICO OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS  
RAINFALL WILL PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES,  
ESPECIALLY IN AREAS OF STEEP TERRAIN.  
 
4. LARGE SWELLS WILL AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWESTERN AND  
WEST-CENTRAL COASTS OF MEXICO OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THESE SWELLS  
ARE LIKELY TO CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING SURF AND RIP CURRENT  
CONDITIONS. PLEASE CONSULT PRODUCTS FROM YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 12/1500Z 20.1N 106.5W 95 KT 110 MPH  
12H 13/0000Z 20.4N 106.8W 85 KT 100 MPH  
24H 13/1200Z 20.9N 107.3W 80 KT 90 MPH  
36H 14/0000Z 21.3N 107.7W 85 KT 100 MPH  
48H 14/1200Z 21.6N 107.7W 90 KT 105 MPH  
60H 15/0000Z 22.2N 107.4W 90 KT 105 MPH  
72H 15/1200Z 23.2N 106.9W 90 KT 105 MPH  
96H 16/1200Z 24.1N 106.3W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND  
120H 17/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
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