973  
WTPZ42 KNHC 231443  
TCDEP2  
 
HURRICANE VANCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 9  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP222026  
900 AM CST FRI OCT 23 2026  
 
SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT VANCE CONTINUES TO GET BETTER  
ORGANIZED THIS MORNING. THE HURRICANE HAS A WELL-DEFINED CENTRAL  
DENSE OVERCAST WITH OCCASIONAL HINTS OF AN EYE TRYING TO FORM AND  
EYEWALL CLOUD TOPS POKING UP THROUGH THE OVERCAST. THE HURRICANE  
ALSO HAS A LARGE COMPLEX OF OUTER BANDS IN THE NORTHEASTERN  
SEMICIRCLE. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE IN THE 70-79 KT  
RANGE, AND THEY HAVE TRENDED UPWARD SLIGHTLY SINCE THE LAST  
ADVISORY. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 80 KT.  
 
VANCE IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING STEADY TO RAPID STRENGTHENING AND A  
VERY FAVORABLE ATMOSPHERIC ENVIRONMENT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO  
ISSUES THAT SERIOUSLY COMPLICATE THE INTENSITY FORECAST. FIRST, THE  
PREVIOUS TROPICAL CYCLONES THAT HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE AREA NEAR  
VANCE'S FORECAST TRACK HAVE CAUSED A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN BOTH  
OCEANIC HEAT CONTENT AND SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NORTH OF WHERE  
THE CENTER IS NOW. INDEED, SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES AT A DRIFTING  
BUOY ABOUT 25 N MI FROM THE CENTER OF VANCE HAVE FALLEN BELOW 28C  
JUST DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. THIS COLD POOL IS LIKELY TO HALT  
INTENSIFICATION, AND IT MAY TAKE VANCE A COUPLE OF DAYS TO GET PAST  
IT. SECOND, SOUTHWESTERLY AND WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS  
FORECAST TO INCREASE BY 24 H, AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE COLDER  
WATER COULD CAUSE THE CYCLONE TO WEAKEN. THE NEW INTENSITY FORECAST  
FOLLOWS THE SCENARIO SHOWN BY THE HAFS MODELS, WHICH SHOWS  
WEAKENING WHILE THE CYCLONE IS OVER THE COLDER WATER FOLLOWED BY  
MODEST RE-INTENSIFICATION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A TRACK TO THE  
RIGHT OF THE FORECAST TRACK WILL KEEP THE CENTER OVER THE COLDER  
WATER FOR A LONGER TIME, WHILE A TRACK TO THE LEFT WOULD REDUCE HOW  
MUCH TIME THE CENTER SPENDS OVER THE COLD POOL. IF IT IS NOT  
ALREADY APPARENT, THIS INTENSITY FORECAST IS LOW CONFIDENCE.  
 
THE CENTER HAS REFORMED OR JOGGED TO THE WEST DURING THE PAST FEW  
HOURS, AND THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 325/4 KT.  
VANCE IS CURRENTLY BEING STEERED BY A WEAK MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER  
EASTERN MEXICO AND THE EASTERN PACIFIC, AND LATER IN THE FORECAST  
PERIOD IT WILL COME UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A LARGE MID- TO  
UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE  
ADJACENT PORTIONS OF NORTHERN MEXICO AND THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC.  
WHILE THE DYNAMICAL MODELS AGREE ON THE GENERAL SYNOPTIC PATTERN,  
THE TRACK FORECAST IS COMPLICATED BY THE POSSIBILITIES OF HOW  
STRONG AND VERTICALLY STACKED VANCE WILL BE. A STRONGER AND MORE  
VERTICALLY STACKED VANCE, ESPECIALLY AS DEPICTED IN THE GFS, WILL  
LIKELY MOVE SLOWLY TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST AND NORTH DURING THE  
FORECAST PERIOD. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE UKMET AND CANADIAN FORECAST  
VANCE TO BE WEAKER AND SHEAR APART, WITH THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER BEING  
STEERED MORE TO THE NORTHWEST BEFORE EVENTUALLY TURNING NORTHWARD.  
THE TRACK FORECAST FOLLOWS THE SCENARIO THAT VANCE WILL STAY  
VERTICALLY COUPLED, AND THE NEW FORECAST TRACK IS SIMILAR TO THE  
PREVIOUS TRACK. HOWEVER, IT LIES TO THE LEFT OF THE GOOGLE DEEPMIND  
ENSEMBLE MEAN, THE HFIP CORRECTED CONSENSUS, AND THE FLORIDA STATE  
SUPERENSEMBLE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 23/1500Z 10.7N 102.1W 80 KT 90 MPH  
12H 24/0000Z 11.3N 102.5W 95 KT 110 MPH  
24H 24/1200Z 12.3N 102.9W 100 KT 115 MPH  
36H 25/0000Z 13.3N 103.3W 95 KT 110 MPH  
48H 25/1200Z 14.4N 103.6W 90 KT 105 MPH  
60H 26/0000Z 15.3N 103.9W 85 KT 100 MPH  
72H 26/1200Z 15.9N 104.2W 90 KT 105 MPH  
96H 27/1200Z 16.6N 104.4W 90 KT 105 MPH  
120H 28/1200Z 17.5N 104.5W 75 KT 85 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER BEVEN  
 
 
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