338  
WTPZ42 KNHC 241454  
TCDEP2  
 
HURRICANE VANCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 13  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP222026  
900 AM CST SAT OCT 24 2026  
 
THE SATELLITE APPEARANCE OF VANCE HAS DETERIORATED A BIT DURING THE  
PAST FEW HOURS, LIKELY DUE TO THE COMBINED EFFECTS OF COLDER SEA  
SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR THE CENTER AND INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY  
SHEAR. WHILE THE EYEWALL CLOUD TOPS REMAIN QUITE COLD, THE EYE HAS  
BECOME LESS DISTINCT AND THE CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST HAS BECOME MORE  
RAGGED. THE SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES  
HAVE NUDGED DOWNWARD, AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS REDUCED TO 90 KT.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS STILL PROBLEMATIC AND LOW CONFIDENCE.  
VANCE IS LIKELY TO WEAKEN DURING THE NEXT 24 H AS IT CROSSES A POOL  
OF COLDER WATER WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR 27C THAT HAS BEEN UPWELLED BY  
SEVERAL PREVIOUS TROPICAL CYCLONES, AND AT THE SAME TIME  
SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR IS FORECAST TO INCREASE TO NEAR 20-25 KT. THE  
CYCLONE IS LIKELY TO TAKE 24 H OR SO TO CROSS THE COLD POOL, THEN IT  
IS EXPECTED TO MOVE OVER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR 29C CLOSER TO  
THE COAST OF MEXICO. THIS SHOULD ALLOW INTENSIFICATION IF THE SHEAR  
IS LIGHT ENOUGH. THE GFS AND ECMWF BOTH SHOW A PERIOD OF REDUCED,  
BUT STILL MARGINAL, SHEAR THAT COULD ALLOW SOME INTENSIFICATION, AND  
THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE INTENSITY FORECAST. THE NEW INTENSITY  
FORECAST HAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST,  
PARTICULARLY AFTER 60 H. THERE ARE THREE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE NOTED  
FOR THIS FORECAST. FIRST THE 06Z GFS CALLS FOR VANCE TO MAKE  
LANDFALL ALONG THE MEXICAN COAST AS A HURRICANE, ALTHOUGH AT THE  
MOMENT NO OTHER GUIDANCE EXPLICITLY SHOWS THIS. SECOND, IT IS  
POSSIBLE THAT VANCE COULD WEAKEN MORE THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST DURING  
THE NEXT 24 H AS IT PASSES OVER THE COLD POOL. THIRD, IT IS POSSIBLE  
THAT THE SHEAR MAY INCREASE TO THE POINT WHERE NO RE-INTENSIFICATION  
COULD OCCUR, AS THE UKMET AND CANADIAN MODELS SHOW STRONGER SHEAR  
THAN THE GFS AND ECMWF.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS 340/5 KT. VANCE IS BEING STEERED BY A WEAK  
LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER EASTERN MEXICO, AND IT IS APPROACHING A  
LARGE MID-LATITUDE TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES AND  
NORTHWESTERN MEXICO. WHILE NEITHER OF THESE FEATURES WILL CHANGE  
MUCH DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS, VANCE IS LIKELY TO MOVE INTO AN AREA  
OF LIGHTER STEERING CURRENTS NEAR THE BASE OF THE TROUGH AND SLOW  
ITS FORWARD MOTION DURING THE NEXT 24-36 H. THE TRACK FORECAST  
AFTER 36 H IS DEPENDENT ON HOW STRONG VANCE IS AND HOW WELL VANCE  
MAINTAINS ITS VERTICAL STRUCTURE. A WEAKER SYSTEM THAT SHEARS APART  
LIKE SHOWN IN THE UKMET AND CANADIAN IS LIKELY TO MOVE  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD BEFORE RESUMING A MORE NORTHERLY  
MOTION, WHILE A STRONGER AND VERTICALLY DEEPER SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO  
CONTINUE SLOWLY NORTHWARD. THE NEW FORECAST TRACK IS ON THE EAST  
SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE NEAR THE HFIP CORRECTED CONSENSUS,  
GOOGLE DEEPMIND, AND FLORIDA STATE SUPERENSEMBLE, AND IT HAS ONLY  
MINOR ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTIES IN BOTH THE TRACK AND INTENSITY  
FORECASTS, IT IS TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT WIND AND STORM SURGE  
IMPACTS VANCE MAY CAUSE ALONG THE COAST OF MEXICO. INTERESTS IN  
SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE  
HURRICANE.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH SLOW-MOVING HURRICANE VANCE WILL  
IMPACT THE WESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM MICHOACáN TO JALISCO DURING  
MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. THIS RAINFALL MAY PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING  
FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES ACROSS COLIMA AND WESTERN PORTIONS OF  
MICHOACáN AND JALISCO, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS ALONG STEEP TERRAIN.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 24/1500Z 12.9N 103.0W 90 KT 105 MPH  
12H 25/0000Z 13.6N 103.3W 85 KT 100 MPH  
24H 25/1200Z 14.6N 103.6W 80 KT 90 MPH  
36H 26/0000Z 15.5N 104.0W 80 KT 90 MPH  
48H 26/1200Z 16.0N 104.3W 85 KT 100 MPH  
60H 27/0000Z 16.3N 104.4W 90 KT 105 MPH  
72H 27/1200Z 16.7N 104.4W 80 KT 90 MPH  
96H 28/1200Z 17.7N 104.5W 65 KT 75 MPH  
120H 29/1200Z 18.7N 104.7W 50 KT 60 MPH  
 
 
FORECASTER BEVEN  
 
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